Ethanol Content and actual results
02-28-2016, 04:53 PM
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What about mixing up some e50 from some 116 unleaded and e98? Would give you the cooling properties of the ethanol plus the added anti knock. Would give you a octane rating about 109..
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
03-02-2016, 11:15 AM
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I Just converted to corn so I don't have too much experience with it. Dave Steck's ethanol sensor conversion allows my '05 vette to read and adapt to the content. Only put a few tanks through it but I'm digging it lots despite only getting ~E65 at the Kroger by my house. The current/default ethanol tables add ~5 degrees more timing at this ethanol level, 20 degrees so far on gates (15#). I've leaned it out a little roughing out the boost VE table and it hasn't knocked once.
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03-12-2016, 08:07 AM
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I'm new to the alcohol fuels so this all will be a experiment.
03-14-2016, 01:06 PM
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Who has actually tested ethanol content...and how ?
And does E85 always come out at 85% or close ?
A recent post elsewhere had a guy using VP E85...and via his flex fuel sensor this registered only 65%
Confused he got some more drums to test...and same result, all in the 61-65% range
Here the better pump fuel registers around 7%, cheaper pump 4-5%
He then got some Sunoco E85, it came out at 81%
Now obviously flex fuel sensors can be led astray ( usually by moisture )...but this one sounds like a strange result, especially when it was all new drums of fuel tested.
Any comments ?
And does E85 always come out at 85% or close ?
A recent post elsewhere had a guy using VP E85...and via his flex fuel sensor this registered only 65%
Confused he got some more drums to test...and same result, all in the 61-65% range
Here the better pump fuel registers around 7%, cheaper pump 4-5%
He then got some Sunoco E85, it came out at 81%
Now obviously flex fuel sensors can be led astray ( usually by moisture )...but this one sounds like a strange result, especially when it was all new drums of fuel tested.
Any comments ?
03-14-2016, 02:26 PM
#49
I test it all the time with an ethanol tester vial and water method. The flexfuel sensors measure moisture in the system and aren’t very accurate if there is any moisture in the fuel. In the farm communities on the outskirts of town in the summer we usually see around 80-85%. In town, it rarely goes higher than 70-75% year round. It’s at 70% or under most of the winter months.
I’d get a simple test vial like pictured below and check the fuel straight from the barrel. Can get them cheap at Sears.
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/part...FQIKaQodzycBtA
I’d get a simple test vial like pictured below and check the fuel straight from the barrel. Can get them cheap at Sears.
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/part...FQIKaQodzycBtA
03-14-2016, 02:34 PM
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Not in the US, so not sure how easy they are to find.
Dont even see anything listed on ebay within Europe for such a thing, all listings are in the US.
Will show him it anyway, as something needs tested !
Dont even see anything listed on ebay within Europe for such a thing, all listings are in the US.
Will show him it anyway, as something needs tested !
03-14-2016, 04:34 PM
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TBH most people who work in main dealers here would struggle to tie their shoelaces nevermind understand anything about a car !
And as E85 is non existent here....they wouldnt even know what a flex fuel sensor was if you shoved if up their hole ! ( not that it is a good way to identify one lol )
Most of the guys in the UK using E85, are buying the race versions from the big brand names, because there is no pump E85 anywhere.
Even still, sensor or not, it should be reading a lot more consistent than it seems to be !
And as E85 is non existent here....they wouldnt even know what a flex fuel sensor was if you shoved if up their hole ! ( not that it is a good way to identify one lol )
Most of the guys in the UK using E85, are buying the race versions from the big brand names, because there is no pump E85 anywhere.
Even still, sensor or not, it should be reading a lot more consistent than it seems to be !
03-15-2016, 08:01 AM
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Lead and ethanol don't play nice. If you search in the fuel section of bullet they will explain it.
But it actually makes ethanol more prone to pre-ignition from what the experts say
But it actually makes ethanol more prone to pre-ignition from what the experts say
03-15-2016, 08:56 AM
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CRAP. Was not aware of that. That might explain why the engine felt a little sluggish. I tried an E70 mix of 4 E85 & 1 110 for the first time and with 15# it only ran 9.20 @ 148 with a 1.306. Plugs looked a little odd, but nothing alarming. Just figured I needed to sort out the tune. Hmm.
Trying to be cautious with this mutt of an engine I slapped together after my AES screwing. Summit aluminum block, 24x crank, LY6 rods/pistons and 317s.
Trying to be cautious with this mutt of an engine I slapped together after my AES screwing. Summit aluminum block, 24x crank, LY6 rods/pistons and 317s.
03-15-2016, 09:31 AM
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CRAP. Was not aware of that. That might explain why the engine felt a little sluggish. I tried an E70 mix of 4 E85 & 1 110 for the first time and with 15# it only ran 9.20 @ 148 with a 1.306. Plugs looked a little odd, but nothing alarming. Just figured I needed to sort out the tune. Hmm.
Trying to be cautious with this mutt of an engine I slapped together after my AES screwing. Summit aluminum block, 24x crank, LY6 rods/pistons and 317s.
Trying to be cautious with this mutt of an engine I slapped together after my AES screwing. Summit aluminum block, 24x crank, LY6 rods/pistons and 317s.