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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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I don't follow the first part , maybe I'm reading it wrong , but I'll throw another wideband in it and double check the afr
typo, should read "tuner"

widebands only read correctly when combustion happens correctly, as said, they dont always tell you what you think...at least not directly.
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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Try it on Cam2 or @ c16 with the meth off and see what happens.

I am on BR7es 23psi, .22 gap, old Ls1 coils, autozone wires, Zero issues. Old plugs lastes all season too.
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 05:03 PM
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What kind of DC are you seeing on those injectors at 780 rwhp?
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
typo, should read "tuner"

widebands only read correctly when combustion happens correctly, as said, they dont always tell you what you think...at least not directly.
My tuner and ex boss Steve Williams is a busy guy and I feel bad for bothering him , plus he's in Virginia and I moved to Florida , I really need a solid day to mess with the car so I can figure it out
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by B18B1LS1
What kind of DC are you seeing on those injectors at 780 rwhp?
I think around 90%
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 09:26 PM
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Did this happen before you moved to FL? Do you have logs that show a detail of your AFR during these misfire events? A maybe 90% duty cycle makes me wonder if you are running lean, and the KR could line up with this idea.
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by foose04
Wow, this sounds like the same damn thing I'm dealing with.

21-22psi, .018 gap on ngk 1049s. Even got the random knock he said. E85, 15.5-16.5 timing. 180 eng temps, and AITs below 120.

5.7L 9.5 compression S480/92 1.0 t4


I was wondering if it's 112k OEM truck coils are tired. Thinking about trying those 15% hotter Accel coils. Wish hey wasn't yellow, they ugggly.


How tight can you go?
Go to o'reilly, purchase 8 ngk tr6s.....gap to .28. Smooth as silk. Same thing OP needs to do.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Game ova
Go to o'reilly, purchase 8 ngk tr6s.....gap to .28. Smooth as silk. Same thing OP needs to do.
I been running this truck under boost for 4 years. I been through all the plugs up to 8s and gapping down put the breaking up fourth down the boost train.

My setup put down 990HP through a 4l80 at 22-23psi. I feel like 1200ish crank HP and a one range colder then stock plug is pretty bad advice. Open to other suggestions though, thanks guys.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by foose04
I been running this truck under boost for 4 years. I been through all the plugs up to 8s and gapping down put the breaking up fourth down the boost train.

My setup put down 990HP through a 4l80 at 22-23psi. I feel like 1200ish crank HP and a one range colder then stock plug is pretty bad advice. Open to other suggestions though, thanks guys.
Meh, works for me, but then again I only make 810.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by foose04
Wow, this sounds like the same damn thing I'm dealing with.

21-22psi, .018 gap on ngk 1049s. Even got the random knock he said. E85, 15.5-16.5 timing. 180 eng temps, and AITs below 120.

5.7L 9.5 compression S480/92 1.0 t4


I was wondering if it's 112k OEM truck coils are tired. Thinking about trying those 15% hotter Accel coils. Wish hey wasn't yellow, they ugggly.


How tight can you go?
Hey bud, you may want to look at the replacement coils that firecore offers.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Blown06
Hey bud, you may want to look at the replacement coils that firecore offers.

Thanks man, I think I'll give these guys a shot. Read a few good things about them over on YB as well.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 06:13 PM
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No harm in upgrading...but there is no way your coils ( if working correctly ) are the problem.

People have made double the power with no spark issues on same coils.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 07:27 PM
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To explain:

A wide band measures O2 levels in the exhaust.

When a cylinder misfires because it is overfueled it raises the level of O2 in the exhaust.

To those who directly interpolate O2 output into AFR are mislead, instead of seeing it for what it is.

This is why a Dyno with a 3 gas analyzer can be helpfull.

The false lean (elevated levels) from the O2 sensor would be accompanied by reduced CO and an HC spike in the above scenario.

If it is smoking like a diesel it might be rich.....
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I talked to Steve today and I'm going to test the valve springs seeing that I hit full boost far before I start breaking up , I know someone in here suggested that and I thank you sir
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by foose04
I been running this truck under boost for 4 years. I been through all the plugs up to 8s and gapping down put the breaking up fourth down the boost train.

My setup put down 990HP through a 4l80 at 22-23psi. I feel like 1200ish crank HP and a one range colder then stock plug is pretty bad advice. Open to other suggestions though, thanks guys.
Sorry for the "bad advice". Just did this today.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 10:50 PM
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Don't worry about it. Every engine acts different. Looks good on the dyno, should be enough to get you out of the 11s.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by transaminator99
I talked to Steve today and I'm going to test the valve springs seeing that I hit full boost far before I start breaking up , I know someone in here suggested that and I thank you sir
I only mentioned springs because you said you have duals. They are known for "soft" failures. Instead of dumping a valve and grenading your engine, they tend to break one coil and reduce performance.
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Old Jul 9, 2016 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by foose04
Don't worry about it. Every engine acts different. Looks good on the dyno, should be enough3 to get you out of the 11s.
Probably not, will take a rear end and some E.T streets for that to happen. But that's beside the point.
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