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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 08:30 PM
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ok so we built a twin 70mm turbo 6l - bone stock engine at the moment
has hp tune in it and runs 15 psi boost and water meth
hp seems to be down a bit from what we read on here for similar setups
we are hitting around 520hp to the wheels at 5200 rpm - cant keep it locked down from there and just spin the tires.

anyway - out on the road - anything after about 5500 rpm, boost starts to drop from 15psi down to 12 psi and sits there rock steady - anything under 5500 rpm and it sits rock steady at 15psi

we are wondering if we are running out of air - meaning the stock throttle body may be too small?

we are running a walbro 340 pump and 80# seimens deka injectors so we dont think it is a fuel issue

it is drive by wire, and with the dollar the way it is up here in Canada a new 101 mm drive by wire throttle body is about a grand landed here - so we dont want to be throwin money at it if thats not the issue

any thoughts or suggestions on what to check, or test?

what are you higher hp guys runnin for a throttle body size?
thanks
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 09:13 PM
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What size is your throttle body?
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 09:15 PM
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stock 6l truck
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 09:17 PM
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sounds like a back pressure issue
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 09:18 PM
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dual 3" exhaust , no cats, straight through mufflers
too small?
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 09:26 PM
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could try open downpipes or if you have flex sections in the hot side have seen plenty of them colapse causing restrictions and boost problems
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no flex, and we can not run around without mufflers of some sort
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 09:51 PM
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You probably have massive tuning issues. Log some data and post it up. That being said, an intake side boost leak could also cause similar problems. If your engine is truly bone stock internally, you may also have valvespring issues at 15#'s of boost. With twin 70's your boost drop is NOT because of TB size.
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 06:47 AM
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The stock throttle body isn't your problem. Its been 7's in the quarter.

How many miles on the long block? The stock valve springs weaken with mileage and sometimes have trouble with boost.
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I doubt it’s the TB. What’s your fuel flow look like? If the fuel flow is there and everything else seems fine engine wise (valve springs etc), look at the converter/trans for your slip % VS gearing/tire size. I bet it’s way off.

I’d guess your converter isn’t coupling well below 5200RPM, then as soon as the converter starts to couple it blows the tires off.

The boost dropping sounds like a WG spring VS back pressure issue. As soon as boost builds so does back pressure and it’s opening the WG. Put a stiffer WG spring in it (or shim the one you have) and see if that aspect changes.

Would be ideal to setup HP to progressively add boost is some way….

Good luck!
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lots of guys in the 8's and 1000whp+ on stock throttle bodies.
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Originally Posted by Seeker1056
ok so we built a twin 70mm turbo 6l - bone stock engine at the moment
has hp tune in it and runs 15 psi boost and water meth
hp seems to be down a bit from what we read on here for similar setups
we are hitting around 520hp to the wheels at 5200 rpm - cant keep it locked down from there and just spin the tires.

anyway - out on the road - anything after about 5500 rpm, boost starts to drop from 15psi down to 12 psi and sits there rock steady - anything under 5500 rpm and it sits rock steady at 15psi

we are wondering if we are running out of air - meaning the stock throttle body may be too small?

we are running a walbro 340 pump and 80# seimens deka injectors so we dont think it is a fuel issue

it is drive by wire, and with the dollar the way it is up here in Canada a new 101 mm drive by wire throttle body is about a grand landed here - so we dont want to be throwin money at it if thats not the issue

any thoughts or suggestions on what to check, or test?

what are you higher hp guys runnin for a throttle body size?
thanks

Stock TB will cope with about 4x the power you're making...and then some...and then maybe a bit more

So basically you need a better form of boost control and some better tuning.
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What size and AR is the turbo hot side? What size hot side pipe?
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