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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 12:58 PM
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 01:03 PM
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going to need a lot more details to help you out. like

cam
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boost level
fuel
trans

just to help at all. thanks.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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That's what my dyno looked like when I was spinning.

Did you do a MPH graph as well? My speedo was pegged at 155, dyno rollers showed I was only doing 95. Still make 575whp lol.
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Originally Posted by yenkomike
going to need a lot more details to help you out. like

cam
heads
turbos
boost level
fuel
trans

just to help at all. thanks.
thunder racing comp cams 224/224 112 lsa
ls2, afr 225 72cc
aps twin turbo(mitsubishi td06-20g)
this dyno was on 14 psi wastegate spring
91 pump gas, 80lb injectors 450lph in-tank pump
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Those turbos are tiny. Is that a single gear pull?
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what valve springs in it.

how much timing?

getting any knock retard?
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Originally Posted by yenkomike
what valve springs in it.

how much timing?

getting any knock retard?
factory afr springs(they have red paint on them)
16 degrees of timing, tuner says 18-19 didnt gain much
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Those turbos are tiny. Is that a single gear pull?
turbos are tiny but i have the lowest rwhp aps turbo kit ive ever seen
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 03:34 PM
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i think heads are too big, cr too low. 8.5:1
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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im not saying its the issue but 14 psi and 16* timing is fairly aggressive for 91 pumpgas. that is unless your iat's are very cool. id say drop timing and see if it likes it you might be getting some detonation.

I lot of guys have gotten away with more but not every combo is the same.
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im not saying its the issue but 14 psi and 16* timing is fairly aggressive for 91 pumpgas. that is unless your iat's are very cool. id say drop timing and see if it likes it you might be getting some detonation.

I lot of guys have gotten away with more but not every combo is the same.
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Valve float, high back pressure from those small turbos can cause this if you dont have a heavy enough valve spring, also check plug gaps are tight , around 20" thou
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 10:16 PM
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what boost controller? It looks like you hit the boost warning/control setting on a profec-B spec-II (or similar) dropping boost suddenly to some preset level.

usually, use SMOOTHING=0 for diagnosis. The "5" setting is for showing off the curve, it may mask issues with the engine.

Also an AF curve would be nice. but overall it just looks to be regulated, purposefully, you kind of see a little spike right before it occurs, which further emphasis on the control aspect.
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Valve float, high back pressure from those small turbos can cause this if you dont have a heavy enough valve spring, also check plug gaps are tight , around 20" thou
afr red springs, plugs are at .022
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Originally Posted by kingtal0n
what boost controller? It looks like you hit the boost warning/control setting on a profec-B spec-II (or similar) dropping boost suddenly to some preset level.

usually, use SMOOTHING=0 for diagnosis. The "5" setting is for showing off the curve, it may mask issues with the engine.

Also an AF curve would be nice. but overall it just looks to be regulated, purposefully, you kind of see a little spike right before it occurs, which further emphasis on the control aspect.
I have eboost 2 but tuner uses mbc
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looks like valve float
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Originally Posted by ls3fox
looks like valve float
these are the springs
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with a float I would expect some kind of jagged/ragged edge along the curve, which is why you need to look at it with smoothing=0.
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Post boost curve, post AFR curve.

And is this repeatable on the dyno...and does the car exhibit the same behaviour on the road, and in every gear ?

and the CR is not a problem.
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pic with red/orange plot chart, they tried more timing and knock sensor started pulling timing.
smoothing set to 0 on both




Originally Posted by kingtal0n
with a float I would expect some kind of jagged/ragged edge along the curve, which is why you need to look at it with smoothing=0.
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Post boost curve, post AFR curve.

And is this repeatable on the dyno...and does the car exhibit the same behaviour on the road, and in every gear ?

and the CR is not a problem.
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