Tis the reason I want an automatic (footage I took today)
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i went to automatics in the late 90's after breaking 3 m21's in a row. once i went to a super t10 i started breaking other stuff. spit a c-clip axle...that was a butthole puckering experience.
put in a bone stock 400, and a state of the art B&M converter lol and went faster and stopped hemorrhaging money.
that was back when you could get a good m21 for like $300 which seemed really expensive haha
put in a bone stock 400, and a state of the art B&M converter lol and went faster and stopped hemorrhaging money.
that was back when you could get a good m21 for like $300 which seemed really expensive haha
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Originally Posted by jay_rich
I find it fun, little slower on the spool timing, my tires are terrible so pretty well every gear is useless. Still kinda hard to beat a built auto turbo car when it starts making steam though. Also i was so use to the auto I knew when tires would break loose, now its a guessing game of what the car is going to do.
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Agree! With a few adjustments its not hard to cut a 1.4-1.5 60' even in a heavy car. Going to a manual from an auto I had to adjust my rear shocks, learn the clutch, and play with tire pressure. In 4-5 passes I was within a tenth or so of my auto 60' granted it takes a lot more effort, but to me effort is fun!
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There is something to be said about guys who want to keep the third pedal in a car that makes enough power to warrant an auto, it's called always being slower than the guy with the auto. LOL! But hey you can say you managed to get one good pass out of 10 so you have that going for you. Double LOL!
OK enough poking fun at the manual guys because for the longest time I was one of them. I said I would never change because I really enjoyed banging gears and the challenge of it, then I figured out I liked winning more. Seriously though once you have a car that is making an appreciable amount of power a correctly setup auto will be faster in EVERY situation including rolls, etc.
OK enough poking fun at the manual guys because for the longest time I was one of them. I said I would never change because I really enjoyed banging gears and the challenge of it, then I figured out I liked winning more. Seriously though once you have a car that is making an appreciable amount of power a correctly setup auto will be faster in EVERY situation including rolls, etc.
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Originally Posted by NicD
There is something to be said about guys who want to keep the third pedal in a car that makes enough power to warrant an auto, it's called always being slower than the guy with the auto. LOL! But hey you can say you managed to get one good pass out of 10 so you have that going for you. Double LOL!
OK enough poking fun at the manual guys because for the longest time I was one of them. I said I would never change because I really enjoyed banging gears and the challenge of it, then I figured out I liked winning more. Seriously though once you have a car that is making an appreciable amount of power a correctly setup auto will be faster in EVERY situation including rolls, etc.
OK enough poking fun at the manual guys because for the longest time I was one of them. I said I would never change because I really enjoyed banging gears and the challenge of it, then I figured out I liked winning more. Seriously though once you have a car that is making an appreciable amount of power a correctly setup auto will be faster in EVERY situation including rolls, etc.
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There is something to be said about guys who want to keep the third pedal in a car that makes enough power to warrant an auto, it's called always being slower than the guy with the auto. LOL! But hey you can say you managed to get one good pass out of 10 so you have that going for you. Double LOL!
OK enough poking fun at the manual guys because for the longest time I was one of them. I said I would never change because I really enjoyed banging gears and the challenge of it, then I figured out I liked winning more. Seriously though once you have a car that is making an appreciable amount of power a correctly setup auto will be faster in EVERY situation including rolls, etc.
OK enough poking fun at the manual guys because for the longest time I was one of them. I said I would never change because I really enjoyed banging gears and the challenge of it, then I figured out I liked winning more. Seriously though once you have a car that is making an appreciable amount of power a correctly setup auto will be faster in EVERY situation including rolls, etc.
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Originally Posted by Game ova
I agree, automatic is king. I was convinced of this after going for a ride in the car that I posted in the video. When he took me back to my car, I knew right then and there that the t56 was about to be ghost. Only thing now is, I'm going to have to do something with this tune to get back the power I'm about to lose with this 400. No biggie though.
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When I want to simply chase a timeslip, I will build a simply LS+PG fox body, apply for my AARP card, and bracket race.
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Originally Posted by coltboostin
I agree, and I am 100% aware my car will ET and TRAP faster with an auto. However for the 1-2 road course events I do a year and "spirited diving" on some of the great roads around here, the car LIVES with a 6 speed. the other factor is as fast as (my car at least) woudl go with a glide, I would need about 5k in saftey gear just to go to ANY event, and that would be events I would win $0 money at. To me, that makes no sense.
When I want to simply chase a timeslip, I will build a simply LS+PG fox body, apply for my AARP card, and bracket race.
When I want to simply chase a timeslip, I will build a simply LS+PG fox body, apply for my AARP card, and bracket race.
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I agree, and I am 100% aware my car will ET and TRAP faster with an auto. However for the 1-2 road course events I do a year and "spirited diving" on some of the great roads around here, the car LIVES with a 6 speed. the other factor is as fast as (my car at least) woudl go with a glide, I would need about 5k in saftey gear just to go to ANY event, and that would be events I would win $0 money at. To me, that makes no sense.
When I want to simply chase a timeslip, I will build a simply LS+PG fox body, apply for my AARP card, and bracket race.
When I want to simply chase a timeslip, I will build a simply LS+PG fox body, apply for my AARP card, and bracket race.
I think there is some joy to actually driving the car down the track for the few times a year I go. When your wife can hop in your auto car and go down the track just as fast as you what does that prove? When I go to the track and see imports driving a manual boat racing domestics on the big end it makes me feel good, those guys are getting it done and not making excuses for automatics.
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I can dig this, but between the 400...and let's say a 9 inch...or 12 bolt TBD, I'm going to be down about a 100whp. Hoping to recoup 70-80 of it back through a more aggressive tune.
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