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Dec 27, 2017 | 11:18 AM

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I have a stock LS1 Vette that I plan to go FI later in life, maybe in a year or two. I am thinking of slowly building up the engine before I add on the S/C, so I am thinking of tossing on some Long Tubes and new heads/valvetrain in a couple months. I am not one to buy parts a second time for no reason, so knowing my goals of doing forged internals, whipple S/C, optimized cam, and such, would adding heads for a S/C now be a loss? Or does it not matter at this point. I don't mind driving a stocking powered car right now (even though it's pretty slow), and it isn't my daily when I get back to Long island. Also, I did search but I am still confused on what heads to get, rockers, and such. I am new to LS1's and came from the diesel world so this is all pretty foreign to me. Thanks

Dec 27, 2017 | 11:27 AM

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I forgot to add. My power goals are about 700whp+, with meth, and spin the engine to about 7k RPM (I have a thing about having the tach not read the max RPM, call me weird..). Also, I will toss in the new pistons when I do the S/C.

Dec 27, 2017 | 05:28 PM

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I wouldn't bother with heads for those goals. Throw in a decent blower cam with good springs and pushrods and go 1 7/8 longtubes. Definitely go with an 8 rib blower setup and many will swear by the spring loaded tensioner. Stock rockers with the bushing upgrade, no need for aftermarket rockers.

Dec 28, 2017 | 01:42 AM

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Thanks. I assume the stock heads flow enough then? I have read otherwise but I am open to other ideas regardless, as long as I know why. What about tossing on a cam setup for a S/C now?

Dec 28, 2017 | 06:46 AM

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Thanks. I assume the stock heads flow enough then? I have read otherwise but I am open to other ideas regardless, as long as I know why. What about tossing on a cam setup for a S/C now?

All boost is is a measurement of restriction. It's the great equalizer, so even if the heads didn't flow well boost helps that. I'm running a D1SC with stock heads at 7psi and about 600whp. You can put a cam in now as long as you keep in mind that it'll have a blower later on....meaning keep the overlap low.

Dec 29, 2017 | 07:16 AM

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http://shop.brutespeed.com/Brute-Spe...d-Camshaft.htm

Many people pick up around 60 hp N/A with this cam, who go cam first, then blower later, and then you'll be ready for the blower. Bob

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Dec 29, 2017 | 07:28 AM

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I tried clicking the link and it looked liked it was broken. Here's the whole link
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Brute-Speed-Forced-Induction-Camshaft-FREE-SHIPPING-Brute-Speed-Camshaft.htm

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Dec 29, 2017 | 11:33 AM

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Thanks again for the information. I'll most likely toss on a cam, new springs/rods, 1 7/8" long tubes (should pass OBD2 emissions if I get cats and tune it right). Given what has been said, a theoretical 90whp should be gained if the tune is right. Is the intake still good? If over 2 years it'll be worth replacing for the cost, then I will. If the stock one flows enough for the added power then I'll keep it. I don't cheap out on parts, but as I stated before I don't like paying for something twice. Wasted too much money on cars before doing that lol.

Dec 29, 2017 | 11:41 AM

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If you have the LS1 intake, it would be worthwhile upgrading. If you have an LS6 intake, then I'd leave it on there. Bob

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Dec 29, 2017 | 02:09 PM

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If you have the LS1 intake, it would be worthwhile upgrading. If you have an LS6 intake, then I'd leave it on there. Bob

Just read that all 01-04 Vettes come with a LS6 intake. Looks like I'm good. Thanks again for the help.

Dec 29, 2017 | 02:12 PM

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Just read that all 01-04 Vettes come with a LS6 intake. Looks like I'm good. Thanks again for the help.

You're welcome, thanks. Bob

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Dec 30, 2017 | 08:13 PM

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I did exactly that! Bought Bob's cam, AFR 225 heads, 1 7/8 headers w/ True Duals. Motor was stock LS1, just added ARP rod bolts. It lasted longer than expected with F1A @ 10 pounds.

Dec 31, 2017 | 08:23 AM

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I did exactly that! Bought Bob's cam, AFR 225 heads, 1 7/8 headers w/ True Duals. Motor was stock LS1, just added ARP rod bolts. It lasted longer than expected with F1A @ 10 pounds.

Thanks Mike, I appreciate it! Bob

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Dec 31, 2017 | 12:18 PM

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I did exactly that! Bought Bob's cam, AFR 225 heads, 1 7/8 headers w/ True Duals. Motor was stock LS1, just added ARP rod bolts. It lasted longer than expected with F1A @ 10 pounds.

What finally gave out?

Did you run it NA?