New BTR CAST INTAKE
You mean how Edlebrock, Weiand, Holley, Dart, Pro Prodcuts, ProComp and dozens of others have ripped the SBC intake?
Or how BMR ripped Strano's springs? But that's for another post.
Maybe there was an agreement between the two companies. Has anyone considered that?
Or how BMR ripped Strano's springs? But that's for another post.
Maybe there was an agreement between the two companies. Has anyone considered that?
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From: Norn Iron
I mean that's a pretty CLEAR copy of Shearers already proven unit.
http://shearerfabrications.com/sf06-05001.html/
Never good to see an American company ripping off another American company.
http://shearerfabrications.com/sf06-05001.html/
Never good to see an American company ripping off another American company.
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From: Norn Iron
I'd love to see some dyno testing of any of the intakes on a decent power build !
Seems impossible to get though. Outright power ? I doubt any really shine over the others, other than over specific rpm ranges...usually the big intakes over 7k.
But it would be very interesting to see how each cylinder was behaving with this style vs a regular open, single entry plenum intakes.
Seems impossible to get though. Outright power ? I doubt any really shine over the others, other than over specific rpm ranges...usually the big intakes over 7k.
But it would be very interesting to see how each cylinder was behaving with this style vs a regular open, single entry plenum intakes.
The issue I have is it's a very small box your working in. There are only so many ways of fit and function to come up with. It's just like how all the racing heads are more and more similar each passing year of development with port layout, valve angles and combustion shape. Limited space, very finite possibilities for competitive and functional variation.
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I get that the tech has been out since the 70's, but no one has made a production piece for the LS before Ron that I have seen. His **** is taking off, and now a big name company comes out with one?
Can anyone show evidence of a mass production Dual Plenum existing before Ron's?
Well, I have to give it up to BTR's marketing. To drop a pic of that thing and not give any other info about the application, threads like this are bound to run wild. Any publicity is good publicity, unless you force chicks to watch you jerk it into a poinsettia.
Feel free to correct me about the application.
Race car
Forced induction
High RPM
High Boost
Will you loose low end torque? Probably. Will it heat soak? See above, doesn't matter. Are there other designs similar? Maybe, but competition is good.
Feel free to correct me about the application.
Race car
Forced induction
High RPM
High Boost
Will you loose low end torque? Probably. Will it heat soak? See above, doesn't matter. Are there other designs similar? Maybe, but competition is good.
I'd like to see this tested with a large cam, good heads, and a nitrous plate on a 346, or just a SBE LS1 and nitrous. Is it safe to assume nitrous outlet will make a plate for this like the high ram plate that goes on top instead of the TB opening?
HELLO FRIENDS!
Logan here. I'm the fool that takes care of BTR's marketing. I took the position a few months back and we will have a much more active presence on the forums moving forward. We had rumblings about CHINA MADE, and THEY KNOCKED OFF RON's! Which is disappointing. These are USA made, and we were months into development when Ron dropped his. His intakes are BAD units, no doubt. Highly respect what he's done for the community!
Here is the post associated with our last update.
We released teaser shots of an intake we've been developing throughout 2017. One of the big questions was WILL IT CLEAR MY F-BODY COWL? We took one of the prototypes over to Clifton's garage and the results will please the 4th Gen owners! His car is equipped with a BMR K-Member, but we have a ton of real estate to compensate. Complete fitment on an OEM K-member will come out soon. We will not release until we've done our due diligence in regards to performance. Our goal is to provide quality components, the testing of these units will be extensive. Hope to get a C5 equipped with one for clearance questions soon. We will keep everyone posted!
FAQ - Answers
- Made in the good ol' USA
- Cathedral ports will come first
- Square ports will come after
- Competitive price point. Affordability is KEY.
- Aiming for Spring 2018 release.
Logan here. I'm the fool that takes care of BTR's marketing. I took the position a few months back and we will have a much more active presence on the forums moving forward. We had rumblings about CHINA MADE, and THEY KNOCKED OFF RON's! Which is disappointing. These are USA made, and we were months into development when Ron dropped his. His intakes are BAD units, no doubt. Highly respect what he's done for the community!
Here is the post associated with our last update.
We released teaser shots of an intake we've been developing throughout 2017. One of the big questions was WILL IT CLEAR MY F-BODY COWL? We took one of the prototypes over to Clifton's garage and the results will please the 4th Gen owners! His car is equipped with a BMR K-Member, but we have a ton of real estate to compensate. Complete fitment on an OEM K-member will come out soon. We will not release until we've done our due diligence in regards to performance. Our goal is to provide quality components, the testing of these units will be extensive. Hope to get a C5 equipped with one for clearance questions soon. We will keep everyone posted!
FAQ - Answers
- Made in the good ol' USA
- Cathedral ports will come first
- Square ports will come after
- Competitive price point. Affordability is KEY.
- Aiming for Spring 2018 release.
ALSO-
We've begun testing this against intakes in a boosted 1200hp application. So far, we're very confident it will be a great piece for the community. However, NA applications have to see a benefit to this switch. We wont release it without an immense amount of due diligence in regards to testing. Stay tuned!
We've begun testing this against intakes in a boosted 1200hp application. So far, we're very confident it will be a great piece for the community. However, NA applications have to see a benefit to this switch. We wont release it without an immense amount of due diligence in regards to testing. Stay tuned!
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Care to explain why it's an "ignorant point of view"? With the vast majority here in this community being in the 8 second and slower category, please explain the benefit of the high end....often high price intake over the cheaper stock piece, which has been demonstrated to get it done time and again. And just to be clear, talking boosted cars here.
Care to explain why it's an "ignorant point of view"? With the vast majority here in this community being in the 8 second and slower category, please explain the benefit of the high end....often high price intake over the cheaper stock piece, which has been demonstrated to get it done time and again. And just to be clear, talking boosted cars here.
Logan here...
Just Chiming in-
LS6 intakes are a GREAT piece from the factory. We're going head to head with an LS6, Proflo, MSD, FAST, Holley etc when we test ours. All have really nice pieces in their own right. Some companies will skew and blur results to move product these days. That's the last goal we have in mind. I think the price point of ours will be very enticing, especially if these Stock LS6 intakes keep getting listed for $400+ on facebook sale forums LOL!
Bottom line, in my mind, will be partial performance, partial aesthetics. When the final revisions are done, I expect it to light up an engine bay. Now if someone calls us and says "Do I need to spend xxx.xx on the BTR intake? I already have an LS6." We will respond with brutal honesty. If ours outperforms an LS6 but a client's money is better spent on chassis, fueling, etc, we wont EVER upsell something that compromises a complete vehicle package. If we upsold parts like the drop shippers of the world, we wouldnt have the client base we do. Customer satisfaction and avoiding buyer's remorse are far more valuable than a few bucks in an upsell.
When all the nitrous guys 'splode the ls6's that are left....
Ours will still be here.
Last edited by Brian Tooley Racing; Jan 25, 2018 at 10:08 AM.