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Old Mar 20, 2018 | 07:36 PM
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Just like title states looking to buy a t6 s480 this week for my 408 what's your opinions billet VSR s480 vs cast Borg s480 looking to make around 850 rwhp, I havent seen to much on the VS stuff and I do like that the Borg can be upgraded with the FI billet wheel down the road theres only about $100 between them so that's not a big issue. Leaning towards the cast Borg as right now.

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Old Mar 21, 2018 | 06:27 AM
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If you have the $$$, I would go Borg. I have a china version, the mach. isn't as nice as my Borg had.
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Either turbo should meet your goals. I haven't seen anything bad about VS Racing turbos and a lot of people have had great luck and made awesome power.

I've considered selling my Borg Billet wheel S480 I purchased from CRT Turbo a couple of years ago. If you're interested shoot me a PM and I can provide you with pics.
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Old Mar 21, 2018 | 12:34 PM
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Just like title states looking to buy a t6 s480 this week for my 408 what's your opinions billet VSR s480 vs cast Borg s480 looking to make around 850 rwhp, I havent seen to much on the VS stuff and I do like that the Borg can be upgraded with the FI billet wheel down the road theres only about $100 between them so that's not a big issue. Leaning towards the cast Borg as right now.
whats the overall hp range gain from the billet wheel upgrade to the borg?
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Old Mar 21, 2018 | 03:06 PM
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whats the overall hp range gain from the billet wheel upgrade to the borg?
If I'm not mistaken on the forced inductions billet wheel it's around a 200 rwhp gain along with faster spool, someone correct me if I'm wrong, that's one reason I was leaning towards the cast borg it can be upgraded later if need be. Also thanks everyone for the replies so far
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Old Mar 21, 2018 | 03:39 PM
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That is what i was told when i bought mine. I have had a chance to compare the vsracing billet wheel and the forced inductions billet wheel visually and by measurment with a caliper i couldnt tell a difference. So i wonder whos wheel they copied. Anyway they might be different weights but im not going to tear my new turbos apart to weight them.
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Old Mar 21, 2018 | 04:27 PM
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Vireh is a great guy but if I had to go with a big frame turbo it would be a Borg hands down.
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Either will work fine for those goals. I'd go with the optional 1.58 T6 on a 408 if you plan on pushing it hard.
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Either will work fine for those goals. I'd go with the optional 1.58 T6 on a 408 if you plan on pushing it hard.
What would be the difference in the 1.58 over the 1.32?
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It will lower the drive pressure or back pressure. Will also spool a little slower.
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Less back pressure at the same boost levels… basically more power per pound of boost than the smaller housing. Again not a huge deal for 850whp either way. But 408 is plenty of cubes for the larger housing IMO. My super mild 4.8 (292 massive cubes!) spools the 1.32 T6 S480 just fine.
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Old Mar 22, 2018 | 07:35 PM
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Thanks for the replies everyone I really appreciate it, would the 1.58 ar affect any on the street? I mean it's not like it's going to exactly be a street car anyways lol but just some weekend cruising I'm assuming not with the cubes from what I have read today?
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Thanks for the replies everyone I really appreciate it, would the 1.58 ar affect any on the street? I mean it's not like it's going to exactly be a street car anyways lol but just some weekend cruising I'm assuming not with the cubes from what I have read today?
Since you likely Auto- You literally wont notice a difference with a motor that large. Also, your lilley meet your power goals at only 14-15 psi, so the urge to turn up will be real
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IMO…

You have enough cubes that it *should* be plenty peppy on the street. From a dig rolling into the throttle the 1.58 won’t get into boost quite as fast. (few hundred RPM I’d guess) But It’s not like you’d want 20lbs in .3 seconds on the street anyway. When you’re up on the trans brake there *should* be very little difference with either housing. This is all assuming the tune and part combo is setup correctly. It will just let that relatively large engine breathe a little better.
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Alright thanks everyone! I really appreciate it this is my first FI build so im making sure I do it right and research before I start buying parts.
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Bringing it back with a update, after some things hit me in budget and putting me way behind Iended up going with the VS over the Borg just because I got a great deal on it and allowed me to get some other things I needed, all in all I'm happy with it and it will do until I'm ready for a forcedinductions billet unit.
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Old Apr 20, 2018 | 06:43 AM
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Nice eye candy ! My VS billet 480 T4 will ne here today, so your not alone ! With my need for a T4 housing and having 376 cubes, the VS unit was WAY CHEAPER than a comparable legit Borg. Im pretty confident the billet wheel is a copy of someones good wheel. Why would they cut out a one off when they can copy a good one easier ?
i know the turbine is the same as a borg. VS t4 1.25 housing is listed as a direct swap for the real T6 borg 96x88 cartridge. Quality of materials is probably the only diff between the VS and borg. The unit from VS is basically half the price of a borg billet s480 t4 1.25 ar 96x88 turbo. 100 bucks give or take isnt enough to warrant a copy vrs the real thing......1600 bucks vrs 875 shipped ? You dang right it is !
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darn could have bought mine. I have a s484 t6 1.58 ar turbo for sale
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