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Old 07-15-2018 | 04:26 PM
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[....] and if it fails who cares, the pump will get just 12V instead of the 24V.
...and the AFR goes lean because fuel pressure has dropped. And then detonation sets in.

What's the worst that could happen?
Old 07-15-2018 | 06:13 PM
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Any inductive load I've ever seen draws LESS current the higher voltage you feed it. Same should be true of this pump, you double the voltage and the current should pull half. Power is power. All regulated DC-DC converters work this way. Just did this in the lab the other day.

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Old 07-15-2018 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Any inductive load I've ever seen draws LESS current the higher voltage you feed it. Same should be true of this pump, you double the voltage and the current should pull half. Power is power. All regulated DC-DC converters work this way. Just did this in the lab the other say.

Current pull from source will not reduce though. You cannot magic work/power from nothing.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Current pull from source will not reduce though. You cannot magic work/power from nothing.
I agree with you, power in equals power out of a DC to DC. The battery will feed the DC to DC with 12V @ let's say 15 amps....but the DC to DC will feed the pump with 24v and something like 7.5A depending on efficiency.
Old 07-15-2018 | 07:47 PM
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What does the BAP increase the voltage to?
24 seems rather high.
Old 07-15-2018 | 07:57 PM
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I just used that cause it was mentioned earlier in the thread. I though most good BAPs were adjustable and went up to like 18vdc.
Old 07-15-2018 | 08:34 PM
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90% of posts in this thread are incorrect.

Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Current pull from source will not reduce though. You cannot magic work/power from nothing.
P(power/watts)=I(current)V(voltage)
Work is power over time so they cannot be used synonymously. So in static systems you can double the current and half the voltage or vice versa and get the same power. This is why they step up voltage so high on transmission lines, so there is less current and hence less loss in the lines, but you still get the same power.
Dnspider electric pumps in a fluid are more complicated than an ideal inductive load. They will draw more current due to the increased torque needed to pump fuel at an increased speed that the voltage increase creates.
Boost a pumps do 18 or 21v from what Ive seen.
The argument about going lean if it fails is valid, dunno how robust some of these converters are, but there is always a chance of failure for any part, propper monitoring is key.

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I can tell you that an AEM380 will fail if fed higher than 18V. Found out the hard way.
Old 07-16-2018 | 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I just used that cause it was mentioned earlier in the thread. I though most good BAPs were adjustable and went up to like 18vdc.
You can buy various units, some adjustable some fixed. I think max is usually around 20/22v though. Not sure I've seen 24v. But yea, I think 18v would be the more common.
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Originally Posted by rindoze
90% of posts in this thread are incorrect.
its funny to read though.
Old 07-16-2018 | 02:19 PM
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90% of stats are untrue
Old 07-16-2018 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
90% of stats are untrue
Because 86% are made up on the spot.



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