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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 08:41 AM
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hi everyone been on here a while never post much im in the process of building a boosted 4.8 down here in Australia and im hoping to try and keep it as reliable as possible my combo so far is looking like this gen 3 4.8 lr4 block, gen 3 lr4 crank, gen 4 ly2 rods, mahle forged pistions, arp rod bolts, arp main studs, 862 ported heads, ls9 head gaskets, speedmaster head studs, sloppy stage 2 cam, and my turbo is a vs racing billet 7875, will be run on e85 duel wallbro 450s 1150cc bosch injectors.

Now my big question is to do with the gen 4 ly2 rods im curious to know how far people have pushed them reliably can anything be done for extra insurance (shot peen or cryo) ive got arp bolts would love your input looking for a 700rwhp and ill be happy.
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 10:35 AM
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Seems to me that since you're on E85, and therefore pretty safe from detonation, the stock rods and definitely the stock bolts should be able to handle what that turbo can dish out. I don't think that turbo makes crazy power on an engine of even 4.4L like I have it on. They seem pretty happy on a 2JZ though.

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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 03:55 PM
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Im hoping to push it to around 20 psi as well
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 04:17 PM
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You wouldn't have to make a serious effort to bend LY2 rods. I have a spare LY2 sitting around with big dreams lol.
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 06:31 PM
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You wouldn't have to make a serious effort to bend LY2 rods. I have a spare LY2 sitting around with big dreams lol.
sorry are you saying there easy to bend or strong im confused
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 07:02 PM
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I would put forged rods in it while u have it apart. Do you really wanna chance it ?
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Originally Posted by jimmyg
I would put forged rods in it while u have it apart. Do you really wanna chance it ?
its not that i want to chance it no one makes a 4.8 forged rod with the piston pin i need
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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Anyone have any input
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 09:11 PM
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You could find yourself a 5.3 crank and open up your rod choices, or just rock what you have. Being gen 4 rods, how bad could they be?
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Old Aug 12, 2018 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by capssy
sorry are you saying there easy to bend or strong im confused
Yeah I think my phone auto corrected that one.

With the LY2 I have, I plan on shooting for ~1600 HP on the stock rods and methanol.
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Old Aug 13, 2018 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
Yeah I think my phone auto corrected that one.

With the LY2 I have, I plan on shooting for ~1600 HP on the stock rods and methanol.
i thought that was the case i spoke to my machinist showed him the rods he seems happy to use them just arp bolts and hone
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Old Aug 13, 2018 | 06:25 AM
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i thought that was the case i spoke to my machinist showed him the rods he seems happy to use them just arp bolts and hone
I would skip ARP bolts as well. 99.99% of the time someone snaps a gen 4 rod in half, the big end is still free spinning on the crank with the bolts intact.
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Old Aug 13, 2018 | 05:56 PM
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i thought that was the case i spoke to my machinist showed him the rods he seems happy to use them just arp bolts and hone
Ask him at what rpm has he seen or expect the rod bolts to fail?
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Yeah, if he gives you an RPM lower than 9k or something, call bullshit on him. Lol

Especially with a turbo in the mix. It helps to cushion the tensile loads on the rod bolts in the TDC area of the exhaust stroke where the highest stresses would normally be.
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Originally Posted by Tjabo
Yeah, if he gives you an RPM lower than 9k or something, call bullshit on him. Lol

Especially with a turbo in the mix. It helps to cushion the tensile loads on the rod bolts in the TDC area of the exhaust stroke where the highest stresses would normally be.
I’m with you. I think the whole stay away from 7K u less you did rod bolts is urban legend.
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I more want to do the rod bolts just for the extra clamping force on the rod ive personally havent seen a rod bolt fail and my old burnout car would sit at 7200 on the limiter for a straight 3 minutes plus. Im looking at the arp bolts to prevent any pontential walking of the cap
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I managed to bend a few Gen4 4.8 rods around 800-900 crank. Not saying they bend at that power level, but something in my tune or RPM range was off. Make sure not to give it too much at low RPM. I ran a 100 shot to spool an S476 with a super tight converter and a baby 212/212 @112 cam. I think that's what did it. No signs of HG leakage or detonation I could see. I didn't even know I bent it till I took the engine apart. Was trapping 151 or so a little over 3000lbs. Also had it geared super tall. 3.10 gear and 29" tire at that time I believe. getting the boost control sorted it may have bounced off 30lbs or so briefly... a few times!

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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
I managed to bend a few Gen4 4.8 rods around 800-900 crank. Not saying they bend at that power level, but something in my tune or RPM range was off. Make sure not to give it too much at low RPM. I ran a 100 shot to spool an S476 with a super tight converter and a baby 212/212 @112 cam. I think that's what did it. No signs of HG leakage or detonation I could see. I didn't even know I bent it till I took the engine apart. Was trapping 151 or so a little over 3000lbs. Also had it geared super tall. 3.10 gear and 29" tire at that time I believe. getting the boost control sorted it may have bounced off 30lbs or so briefly... a few times!

mann i think your setup is allot more serious than mine that said im looking for 700 whp then im happy so this puts my mind at ease a bit
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