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^ The definition of a street car has changed a bit over the last 10 years.
That's an understatement. .
That's why I don't say "Street Car" in my sig. I say "daily driver" because the car is driven to the grocery store, then to work every day and then to the track. Same tires, all glass, heat, defrost.... you get the point.
I built one trailer queen and really didn't enjoy the experience. Got rid of that and now I'm back to building a car I can cruise with the GF and drive almost 2 hours to the nearest track.
I agree with this^^^. Even on this forum, the term "street car" has been stretched beyond recognition. Many of them are nothing more than hacked to death race cars that get driven on the street. There's a night and day difference between those..... and a genuine real deal street car.
I agree with this^^^. Even on this forum, the term "street car" has been stretched beyond recognition. Many of them are nothing more than hacked to death race cars that get driven on the street. There's a night and day difference between those..... and a genuine real deal street car.
So.....you mean..like drag week arent street cars ? :O lol
The whole street etc debate is silly...and the vast majority of such cars, there is **** all street or street legal etc about them. They're probably only "legal" in places there are no actual checks whatsoever, and nobody gives a **** about what laws there may be
Well not meaning to step on anyone’s toes or offend anyone, but this is what I consider a street car.
something I can get in. Go to work. Has ac and heat. Wipers. And you can get caught in traffic and it don’t overheat. Get caught in the rain like this (took this pic at lunch for you guys when I left the gym) and not worry about it. Get on the interstate and drive 70-80 for hours straight (just made a road trip weekend before last to Mississippi) In other words I can drive the car whenever and wherever I want. What power does it make? I dunno yet but over 500rwhp shouldn’t be out out the question. I’m currently in boost raising mode right now, trying to get it dialed in on maybe 10lbs and leave it alone. It should end up around 550-600 on 10lbs and I can drive it anywhere. Then I’ll get a good boost controller for boost by gear. My plan is not a drag car. But a street car like we are talking about that will at least run in the 10’s but not give up anything to do it, and on pump gas without any special peripherals (e85, no’s, meth, icing the intake etc etc. Pull up at the track on radials and do nothing but a burnout and run the times. In other words like a new zr1 vette but about 100 grand cheaper. Lol.
So.....you mean..like drag week arent street cars ? :O lol
The whole street etc debate is silly...and the vast majority of such cars, there is **** all street or street legal etc about them. They're probably only "legal" in places there are no actual checks whatsoever, and nobody gives a **** about what laws there may be
Those are perfect examples of race cars that are driven on the street. They run spring pressure high enough to break rocker arms, everytime you look up they are on the side of the road broke down. It's always something with those things. A genuine street car has all the creature comforts that it had from the factory, and is in such condition that you could take a woman out in the town, and she wouldn't have a clue that it's a 9 or 8 second car.
Those NT01s are no different from most race tires, however. If you get on them when cold you will feel like you are ice skating. I once left the track on MTDRs and decided to swap on the NT01s at the gas station right at the interstate. Accelerating onto the interstate I damn near went sideways when I did a no lift shift into 4th gear. With a little heat in them they would have barely spun popping 2nd gear.
Yep, gotta get them warm lol. Not a good way to learn that haha.
As for streetable, while I added a cage and bulkhead behind the front seats (turbos are where the rear seats used to be), the drivers and passenger compartment still has sound deadening, stereo, air con and heater. I can and have been stuck in rush hour traffic, it'll idle at walking pace on the flat no throttle. But most would consider it a race car, and to be fair it really is - mainly because of the race seats and harness that make looking hard left or right at intersection a painin the *** - I have to loosen off my straps to lean forward. All because I need a HANS device when in events, so the seats wrap around my helmet.
As for diminishing returns as you go up in power, **** yeah... it's like a dam that springs 1 leak, you plug that one, and another pops up, you chase that game until you've got a new dam. Up until the 500's rwhp car was like stock. From 600+ up it's got expensive and now I'll need to forge the motor unless I wait for the pop. Fortunately I've done the trans, clutch, driveshaft, the diff is rated at 550kw and I exceed that at the crank so rather than spend 4 figures upgrading to a Ford 9" center I'm going to rebuild, super finish the gears, add a high tech dry coating, and run the most expensive synthetic oil I can find and then change it EVERY event. Hopefully that works, it works for Subaru's that also have weak diffs.
Well not meaning to step on anyone’s toes or offend anyone, but this is what I consider a street car.
something I can get in. Go to work. Has ac and heat. Wipers. And you can get caught in traffic and it don’t overheat. Get caught in the rain like this (took this pic at lunch for you guys when I left the gym) and not worry about it. Get on the interstate and drive 70-80 for hours straight (just made a road trip weekend before last to Mississippi) In other words I can drive the car whenever and wherever I want. What power does it make? I dunno yet but over 500rwhp shouldn’t be out out the question. I’m currently in boost raising mode right now, trying to get it dialed in on maybe 10lbs and leave it alone. It should end up around 550-600 on 10lbs and I can drive it anywhere. Then I’ll get a good boost controller for boost by gear. My plan is not a drag car. But a street car like we are talking about that will at least run in the 10’s but not give up anything to do it, and on pump gas without any special peripherals (e85, no’s, meth, icing the intake etc etc. Pull up at the track on radials and do nothing but a burnout and run the times. In other words like a new zr1 vette but about 100 grand cheaper. Lol.
I've had multiple full weight daily driver 10 second cars, but I've never owned a single digit car. Daily driver 10's are fairly easy, but it gets a lot harder below that if you want to retain daily driver status. I went 10.2x consistently with a daily driven GTO back in 2007 which back then wasn't nearly as common as it is now. In fact I almost never got beat back then while today running those times at the local street drags you will not beat anyone. My current GTO isn't a daily simply because I'm older and want it to last longer and have a cheap ford focus for a daily. E85 isn't a big deal I don't see why it disqualifies daily status since its actually more available here than premium 91 or 93. I understand you have to use what is available to you on a daily, but here E85 is the most available fuel for boosted guys. It's either that or junk 89 if you don't want to go out of your way to find 93 at the one pump in the county that has it. Once you tune with E85 on a boosted car you'll understand and never want to go back to pump.
Here is my interior, but honestly no one at the strip cares. One car for example during the "midnight street drags" was a fox body no interior. It had slicks with no power steering, no ac, no heat, no radio, and didn't even have an alternator. That's right not even an alternator they pulled it to the lanes.
Here is my interior, but honestly no one at the strip cares. One car for example during the "midnight street drags" was a fox body no interior. It had slicks with no power steering, no ac, no heat, no radio, and didn't even have an alternator. That's right not even an alternator they pulled it to the lanes.
That fox body sounds like the "street car" that won a local event a few months ago. It ran on straight methanol, was pushed to the line..... and pulled after it made a pass. Not my idea of a street car.
This here is my idea of a street car. Is it fast? No, I would say its marginal. But it's a truly legit street car. Rear exit stock location exhaust and all.
I've had multiple full weight daily driver 10 second cars, but I've never owned a single digit car. Daily driver 10's are fairly easy, but it gets a lot harder below that if you want to retain daily driver status. I went 10.2x consistently with a daily driven GTO back in 2007 which back then wasn't nearly as common as it is now. In fact I almost never got beat back then while today running those times at the local street drags you will not beat anyone. My current GTO isn't a daily simply because I'm older and want it to last longer and have a cheap ford focus for a daily. E85 isn't a big deal I don't see why it disqualifies daily status since its actually more available here than premium 91 or 93. I understand you have to use what is available to you on a daily, but here E85 is the most available fuel for boosted guys. It's either that or junk 89 if you don't want to go out of your way to find 93 at the one pump in the county that has it. Once you tune with E85 on a boosted car you'll understand and never want to go back to pump.
well I change the rules for you then, e85 is allowed. Lol
i personally don’t run it because we only have one station here. So it’s reserved for racecars mainly. I don’t daily my gto but I dondrive it 2-3 times a week. I’m trying to keep the miles off of it.
*In B4 the haters come say their racecar is a street car*
Im really not even that picky...I don’t care if guys take out their back seats, AC delete, etc. It’s getting out of hand though when the only requirement is a license plate and the top guys on street night are in the 4’s (1/8th mile). It doesn’t take more than a vin number to get a license plate here since there are no inspections.
This thread went from boosted guys with broken engines (BTW, that's all of us who have been doing this for a while) to show us your "real" street cars thread. I'm ok with it.
Do I have to drag up old pictures of my old turbo daily drivers?
This thread went from boosted guys with broken engines (BTW, that's all of us who have been doing this for a while) to show us your "real" street cars thread. I'm ok with it.
Do I have to drag up old pictures of my old turbo daily drivers?
Speak for yourself, been doing the boosted LS stuff for like a decade and never blown a motor.
If you have a glide, are you really a street car by today's street car standards?
depends on the gear and tire height.....some guys are going 200mph in 1/2 mile events with a glide. You should be able to drive on the highway at reasonable speed without buzzing the motor.
Ok back on subject...even if you have a wideband on one bank a single injector failure could hurt your motor without the wideband telling you anything.
I recently pulled my plugs and number 2 was glazed. Car shows no other signs of issues. A friend thinks my excessive amount of idle time in garage to run out the last bit of fuel to work on the fuel system may have even caused it. I’ll be sending the injector to get checked for piece of mind.
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