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Old Oct 16, 2018 | 11:06 AM
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So right now im strapped for cash. I dont want to run the risk of something going wrong and overboosting my engine. So can i add a bit more fuel to the fuel map above my boost region in case something goes wrong, itll fall on its face from being over rich.. Example: say the highest i want to go is 8lbs, i can fatten it up say around 11-12lbs. Should i leave the timing as is? is any of this safe to do? thx
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Old Oct 16, 2018 | 11:49 AM
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You can change fuel and timing as much as you want in the higher boost areas.

Wasn't the timing at various boost levels cleared up for you in several other threads?
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Originally Posted by JoeNova
You can change fuel and timing as much as you want in the higher boost areas.

Wasn't the timing at various boost levels cleared up for you in several other threads?
yes. But I figured this thread was different. Like as in flooding it with fuel in case of an overboost condition. The other thread was asking what timing people are running. Iirc.
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Old Oct 16, 2018 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kfxguy
So right now im strapped for cash. I dont want to run the risk of something going wrong and overboosting my engine. So can i add a bit more fuel to the fuel map above my boost region in case something goes wrong, itll fall on its face from being over rich.. Example: say the highest i want to go is 8lbs, i can fatten it up say around 11-12lbs. Should i leave the timing as is? is any of this safe to do? thx
Be careful, depending on how much fuel you already have, adding more fuel may actually give you more boost, especially with a small wastegate. An added safety measure is loosen the wastegate spring. If you're going to try it, maybe reduce the wastegate and try (fatten it) it at let say 4 PSI, then you have a buffer in case the extra fuel doesn't do what you expected. Then work your way up.

Also, I've had cases where too much unburnt gas made the wideband report lean, so if you're running closed loop, that could be an issue.
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Old Oct 16, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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Be careful, depending on how much fuel you already have, adding more fuel may actually give you more boost, especially with a small wastegate. An added safety measure is loosen the wastegate spring. If you're going to try it, maybe reduce the wastegate and try (fatten it) it at let say 4 PSI, then you have a buffer in case the extra fuel doesn't do what you expected. Then work your way up.

Also, I've had cases where too much unburnt gas made the wideband report lean, so if you're running closed loop, that could be an issue.
I have “accidentally” done it on 6lbs. It actually cut the boost back. I just wasn’t sure how unsafe this is. Possibly hydro locking the motor.
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I wouldn't dump fuel during overboost, but pull all timing.
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I did that for a little bit. Put a hobbs switch connected to ground out my IAT. and at that temp in the IAT table I'd pull a bunch of timing, similar to the sloppy anti lag thing.
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Old Oct 17, 2018 | 11:41 AM
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You should have your fuel tables and your timing tables properly scaled to be safe in case of overboost. Not necessarily just dump a bunch of fuel but to give enough it wouldn't be too lean. But mostly pull timing. Plenty of other ways to build safety into things like Doug said too.
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You dont need to do anything daft, just have the load cells above target safe. That applies all the time anyway

But really, if all gate plumbing etc is good and quality parts are used, there should be no risk of overboost.
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