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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:01 PM
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I have been looking around online for a 4th Gen F-Body turbo kit that will keep the AC (daily driver in the AZ desert... AC is a MUST), but I can only find three companies who sell a kit : On3 Performance, Huron Speed, and Turbo Technology INC. Looks like CXRacing used to, but it's not on their website. Are there any others that seven pages of Google search didn't find?
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:15 PM
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Huron Speed T4 V3 AC is what most of us used. You might be able to get in on the GB Still too
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:31 PM
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I saw that GB, but I am no where near ready. I am just getting information together right now. I had already planned on upgrading the fuel system for Flex-fuel, since the gas tank has to be dropped to install a roll bar and mini-tub, so I'm shooting to get that done this year. Next year I was planning on a top end or a big CID but that has shifted to turbo based on the advice I got on here, my brother, and the guy that tunes my car. As long as I can keep the AC, not make things like spark plugs impossible, and not get me flagged at emissions, then it looks like turbo is a good idea.

One twin turbo kit I saw completely eliminates getting to the spark plugs from the bottom (which is the only way I know to get the back passenger one) and another completely eliminates getting to them from the top.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:42 PM
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Is there a way for any of these to have the intake plumbing at the stock location? I already have a Raptor hood, so it would be a better location than in the engine bay. Forgive me if that is a stupid question. I know nothing about turbo systems.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 09:20 PM
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The Huron kit is where it's at. I had their single kit and now I use a modified twin kit because more power. If you want to check every single box it may cost more than you want because you'll end up going custom in areas. Get the Huron kit and be done with it unless you want to go nuts.

Many of us Az guys ditched the AC as I'm not going to drive the car when it's 120* out anyways. That made it a lot easier to control temps and make way more power.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 09:27 PM
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The Huron kit is where it's at. I had their single kit and now I use a modified twin kit because more power. If you want to check every single box it may cost more than you want because you'll end up going custom in areas. Get the Huron kit and be done with it unless you want to go nuts.

Many of us Az guys ditched the AC as I'm not going to drive the car when it's 120* out anyways. That made it a lot easier to control temps and make way more power.
I don't want a car that I can only drive Oct to May. I want a 100% daily sriver, so AC is a must.
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CXRacing is a bit crap. Don't worry about them. I did not know Turbo Technology was even still in business! Their kit was the **** about 10-15 years ago but there are better options now. I would seriously look at Huron Speed. They have really put together some good kits and service and price in the last couple years.

You are gonna have to accept that plug access will be more difficult no matter where you go. Be smart about turbo sizing too. You are building a stock displacement fun daily driver. You do not need a 1200hp turbo......
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Not sure on the Huron kit but with the On3 kit I have I can change my plugs just like I did when I had LT headers. It just uses the Truck mani on the driver side and then the C6 mani on the passenger side.
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And at this point using the intake in your hood is kinda pointless. Better to retire the hood to cosmetic duty only.
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What kind of power could I get from the Huron Speed T4 V3 AC on a stock LS1 with a mild turbo cam... something like BTR Stage 2 turbo cam (226/231 .605"/.598" 113+4)? 317 heads might be in the cards too, but for now, assume stock 241 heads. Maybe VS Racing Billet 7875, and 6" intercooler.
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Originally Posted by 1CAMWNDR
And at this point using the intake in your hood is kinda pointless. Better to retire the hood to cosmetic duty only.
Engine bay cooler! LOL
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Engine bay cooler! LOL
LOL.
You could make enough power to make the stock LS1 rods and pistons very unhappy......That is like over 700whp potential. Possibly more....you could search for Billet VSR 7875 results and get an idea.

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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:36 AM
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Another vote for Huron Speed. The group buy is still going on and it's hit the second highest savings bracket so far with a few weeks left still. Something to think about when budgeting as there is no guarantee what savings bracket they'll hit next year.

A 7875 will give more than your ls1 will want to take for any sustained length of time. For reference, I made 900whp with a 76/75 with a 5.3
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I should have worded that differently . Stock LS1 on 10lbs or less of boost. I have read that 10 lbs is all the stock LS1 bottom will take and last a long time. The sticky at the top only says stock bottom. Looks like I can expect high 400s through my S60.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-cla...ains-ac-2.html

he may still have it idk.
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
....Next year I was planning on a top end or a big CID but that has shifted to turbo based on the advice I got on here, my brother, and the guy that tunes my car. As long as I can keep the AC, not make things like spark plugs impossible, and not get me flagged at emissions, then it looks like turbo is a good idea.....
Congrats on coming to the dark side and taking the advice. You're welcome For what you want, I'd still look into a blower though.
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Congrats on coming to the dark side and taking the advice. You're welcome For what you want, I'd still look into a blower though.
LOL @dark side. Hmmmm, Procharger D1? He could keep his headers that way......and the low end/midrange torque would not be as brutal as a PD blower or turbo......Hmmmm, that is something to think about Eric.....
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Originally Posted by 1CAMWNDR
LOL @dark side. Hmmmm, Procharger D1? He could keep his headers that way......and the low end/midrange torque would not be as brutal as a PD blower or turbo......Hmmmm, that is something to think about Eric.....
Been trying to get him to listen in the other thread that got locked, but he was being a stubborn schmuck.....

Doesn't want a bunch of tubing/pipe cluttering the engine bay- Check
Wants AC without relocating a bunch of crap- Check
No oil lines to tap- Check
Easy on the stock motor with linear power delivery- Check
Stock and/or headers give great plug access- Check
You decide how much power you want based on pulley size and how high you want to rev the motor. And he'd have $5k in the setup at most if he went used with all the head room to grow later on.
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Engine bay clutter?? Turbos far more out of the way than a big hunk hanging off the front of the engine.

Plugs?? shouldn't be a issue with turbos. Some use a oe manifold. Shorty style shouldn't be a issue either.

Tip for left side rear plug, remove the coil packs. Get to it fairly easily then. You can make it even easier by rerouting the heater hoses over the hvac box.


Tubing?? About the only thing you should see is the feed tubing out of the intercooler.

You got me on the oil line tho.

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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Been trying to get him to listen in the other thread that got locked, but he was being a stubborn schmuck.....

Doesn't want a bunch of tubing/pipe cluttering the engine bay- Check
Wants AC without relocating a bunch of crap- Check
No oil lines to tap- Check
Easy on the stock motor with linear power delivery- Check
Stock and/or headers give great plug access- Check
You decide how much power you want based on pulley size and how high you want to rev the motor. And he'd have $5k in the setup at most if he went used with all the head room to grow later on.
MY Brother.......a stubborn schmuck? No way, say it isn't so.,....LMAO. Oh yeah, change pulley or if needed step up to an F1....
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