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Old 02-07-2019, 06:01 PM
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Well, I may have screwed up, not sure. Got a good deal on an S366 and was planning on just running it as a single on a 4.8. GenIV 4.8, 862 heads, one of those new turbo "Pro LS" camshafts from Sum mit, and Th400/PTC converter, swapping in a 3.25 gear. Flipped manifolds, 2" hotside pipes. Turbo is .91AR with divided inlet. E85 for fuel.


I'm shooting for ~650rwhp max and enough to push my car to a 10.0 in the 1/4. Been doing the stickshift/nitrous deal for a while now running 10.70s and need a change with the car.

Thoughts? Will this turbo be too small and choke out the 4.8?

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It will kick ***. Maybe not make that kind of power, but ti will work very well.

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Not too many guys running the S366's as a single.
I bet it'll make around 600whp on a 4.8 though.

I had an S366 laying around from my old turbo civic and was going to try it on a 5.3, but decided I wanted to make more power than it would support.

A larger turbo that will support more power in the future doesn't cost much more.
Most people always want more power than they originally planned for and it's cheaper to buy things once.
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My buddy has a single 366 .91 on a 5.3. It kicks ***. Comes on like a blower.
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I have a friend that has an s366 on a 5.3 with a T56. Car made 650whp/700ft-lbs. Should rip on a 4.8
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Originally Posted by svslow
I have a friend that has an s366 on a 5.3 with a T56. Car made 650whp/700ft-lbs. Should rip on a 4.8
Very cool, thanks. Given results like that I'm surprised there aren't more single s366 combos out there.
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Originally Posted by HeavyMetl
Very cool, thanks. Given results like that I'm surprised there aren't more single s366 combos out there.
Backpressure they will all say lol. I get it and what not, but a setup like this would be a lot of fun to drive. I guess I'm too old, but brake boosting and antilag can't beat the feel of actual decent response if you are into driving the thing. I think the s366/4.8 would be pretty damn nice.

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Originally Posted by svslow
I have a friend that has an s366 on a 5.3 with a T56. Car made 650whp/700ft-lbs. Should rip on a 4.8
Can you post a graph of that? What are the 5.3 details (cam/heads) and what boost pressure?
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I'm fixing to find out. I've got a s366 going on a 4.8 with a blow through carb in a S10. Probable about a week out on putting it on the dyno. It ran good on my 5.3 in the c10 but only had it making about 550 but was a blast to drive. Gonna letter rip on the 4.8 though! Probably won't be my final turbo though cuz I'm gonna need around 700 out of this combo to run the times the s10 needs to run.
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
I'm fixing to find out. I've got a s366 going on a 4.8 with a blow through carb in a S10. Probable about a week out on putting it on the dyno. It ran good on my 5.3 in the c10 but only had it making about 550 but was a blast to drive. Gonna letter rip on the 4.8 though! Probably won't be my final turbo though cuz I'm gonna need around 700 out of this combo to run the times the s10 needs to run.

Awesome, I hope you can get the blow thru setup dialed in. I wouldn't even know where to start tuning something like that. Sounds like youve got experience with it though.
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Originally Posted by slowride
Can you post a graph of that? What are the 5.3 details (cam/heads) and what boost pressure?
I am very interested in the details as well!

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Depending on weight you should hit your goals.


But, that's about all you will do. Should be a perfect "right now" boost set up. Great choice on the cam too! The new Summit stuff ROCKS
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Update. Just got it going, I guess I don't work too fast these days.

10.79@129.27 tonight, ended up having to swap in a stock 2002 LS1 cam. The Summit Stage 2 just wouldn't build boost on the footbrake with my current converter.

1.64 60', it'll certainly improve I had quite a bit of wheelspin with my old tires. It's crazy responsive on the street, gotta say the single S366/4.8 combo is pretty sweet!


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Nice! What kind of vehicle and what is the race weight?
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Did you dyno or datalog at all?
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Sweet little combo. This is the stuff I really enjoy. Nothing crazy about it, just pure fun you can enjoy everyday.

I have often thought that an L20 with a 198/208 L92 VVT cam would be a good candidate for such a build... as I am curisous about using VVT as a way to tune boost. And the L92 cam can be used with 1.85 rockers without the need for a phase limiter to get a mild, but usable, 0.545" valve lift. These are the things that keep me up at night.

Nice build. Thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
Sweet little combo. This is the stuff I really enjoy. Nothing crazy about it, just pure fun you can enjoy everyday.

I have often thought that an L20 with a 198/208 L92 VVT cam would be a good candidate for such a build... as I am curisous about using VVT as a way to tune boost. And the L92 cam can be used with 1.85 rockers without the need for a phase limiter to get a mild, but usable, 0.545" valve lift. These are the things that keep me up at night.

Nice build. Thanks for sharing.
Agreed! I think a Gen V L83 with a stock cam and a S366/369sxe would make for a very fun street combination.

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Originally Posted by topbrent
Nice! What kind of vehicle and what is the race weight?
In for above info, also what was the boost level?

Shame the STG2 cam didn't work out for you. Probably would have made up for the lack of low end with another 80-90hp or so on the top end charge. Then run a higher stall converter when you had the funds. Any pics of the setup? whats the hotside look like?

FWIW my mild 4.8 w/ STG2 summit cam would light off the big T6 S480 pretty easily. Race car stuf w/ a trans brake and higher stall converter I know, but it can be done! Much easier with an S366 I'd bet. 2" divided hotside would likely help a ton.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
In for above info, also what was the boost level?

Shame the STG2 cam didn't work out for you. Probably would have made up for the lack of low end with another 80-90hp or so on the top end charge. Then run a higher stall converter when you had the funds. Any pics of the setup? whats the hotside look like?

FWIW my mild 4.8 w/ STG2 summit cam would light off the big T6 S480 pretty easily. Race car stuf w/ a trans brake and higher stall converter I know, but it can be done! Much easier with an S366 I'd bet. 2" divided hotside would likely help a ton.
I wonder if something like one of Stock48's "Triple 12" cams would be a good way to enhance the low speed spool in this application.
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Originally Posted by topbrent
I wonder if something like one of Stock48's "Triple 12" cams would be a good way to enhance the low speed spool in this application.
The first cam I had in my car was a stock 4.8 triple 12 and it made a huge difference in spool on my 5.3 with an s468/83 t6 1.10. Picked up 50hp peak and about 90 under the curve. Made it a blast on the street. Would definitely recommend it and a good converter like what you got from ptc.


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