new numbers with sts kit
132 mph in 6000 feet of air? you have to be kidding me, that is INSANE! add to the fact that the average joe can install one of these kits in his garage? damn damn damn! how are you guys keeping the heads on ?
for some reason on the dyno it would not load it enough to get 15. The kit spools great. One of our customers with a turbo tech kit spools pretty close to the same. you can fit up to a 88 at least maybe bigger. We are building a camaro with a 88 right now that has a 408.
A GT67 with a .86 housing, on a 346ci motor and it spools at 4700rpms????Ouch.... I've been comparing dyno curves of these STS systems to other systems. I have found one interesting result. The STS system without the aid of Meth or N20 spools about the same as a 2JZ-GTE/Supra with the same turbos. Here is a Supra with the same turbo.....
Jose
Jose
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Originally Posted by dynedta
88 with the sts kit? that would be badass
later
Gary
later
Gary
With a T88, looks like it would spool somewhere around ~5800-6000rpms
Some heat loss testing on a standard turbo system was peformed by one of my customers, and the heat loss from the header primary entrance to the turbo which was only ~24 inches from the head was 1450 deg.F EGT at the primary entrance and dropped to 1000 degF in just 24 inches. So you can imagine the energy loss from over 6 feet of piping. Jose
Seems the turbo spools faster on the street then the dyno. Either way good numbers Andy. You will get it figured out. Definitely one of the best mass produced single turbo street kits out at the moment. 
Last edited by W8N2SQZ; Jul 13, 2004 at 01:51 AM.
Can a stall take care of the lag....if you have an auto of course
. With my 3800vig the shifts drop to 4800 on the 1-2 and 2-3 so that would be right in the sweet spot everytime. It flashes to 4600 off the line so lag won't be that bad of a problem on an auto car I would think. Spray a lil N2O off the line to get things started and all should be good. You can argue about the performance of these kits all day long, but the numbers are starting to speak for themselves. Cost is really making these kits shine, so if anyone can make a conventional mounted turbo for the cost of these STS kits, then you have some ground to stand on. You can't really beat the $$ to HP/TQ ratio. Perspective moment Rob made 750-775 with his conventional turbo right, that kit was 7999.99 not installed. This kit is @3300 if you hit one of the dealers up and made 704, so a 70hp difference of 4700 bucks isn't that bad.....oh plus the cost of a 500 dollar N2O system.
Don't get me wrong Rob's kit is one of the baddest around but many people don't have that kind of cash to be throwing at their cars. If I had the extra 8-9grand, Robs kit would be on mine.
11.7@132mph with a DA of 6000ft with a 2.2 60ft imagine if he would have nailed a 1.50 60ft
damn funny mount turbo lol.
. With my 3800vig the shifts drop to 4800 on the 1-2 and 2-3 so that would be right in the sweet spot everytime. It flashes to 4600 off the line so lag won't be that bad of a problem on an auto car I would think. Spray a lil N2O off the line to get things started and all should be good. You can argue about the performance of these kits all day long, but the numbers are starting to speak for themselves. Cost is really making these kits shine, so if anyone can make a conventional mounted turbo for the cost of these STS kits, then you have some ground to stand on. You can't really beat the $$ to HP/TQ ratio. Perspective moment Rob made 750-775 with his conventional turbo right, that kit was 7999.99 not installed. This kit is @3300 if you hit one of the dealers up and made 704, so a 70hp difference of 4700 bucks isn't that bad.....oh plus the cost of a 500 dollar N2O system.Don't get me wrong Rob's kit is one of the baddest around but many people don't have that kind of cash to be throwing at their cars. If I had the extra 8-9grand, Robs kit would be on mine.
11.7@132mph with a DA of 6000ft with a 2.2 60ft imagine if he would have nailed a 1.50 60ft
damn funny mount turbo lol. 
Originally Posted by trtturbo
Everybody always has some negative comments. Its plain to see that these kits are working and give alot of bang for the buck.
Great numbers amacgt.
Great numbers amacgt.
I guess I am still on the fence. I just think if you are going to run nitrous with it, you're kind of defeating the purpose (plus your not as fast as the nitrous cars anyway). I guess I am just a boost purist.
-Geoff
Originally Posted by White_Hawk
I am almost a believer. It would be nice to see guys do it without nitrous, though. A 100 shot is enough to put a properly set up nitrous car into the 10's - go look at the nitrous list if you don't believe me, there are lots of them. Even with all this horsepower there hasn't been 10's. Amacgt never said how big of a shot he was hitting it with, either.
I guess I am still on the fence. I just think if you are going to run nitrous with it, you're kind of defeating the purpose (plus your not as fast as the nitrous cars anyway). I guess I am just a boost purist.
-Geoff
I guess I am still on the fence. I just think if you are going to run nitrous with it, you're kind of defeating the purpose (plus your not as fast as the nitrous cars anyway). I guess I am just a boost purist.
-Geoff
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Can a stall take care of the lag....if you have an auto of course. With my 3800vig the shifts drop to 4800 on the 1-2 and 2-3 so that would be right in the sweet spot everytime. It flashes to 4600 off the line so lag won't be that bad of a problem on an auto car I would think. Spray a lil N2O off the line to get things started and all should be good. You can argue about the performance of these kits all day long, but the numbers are starting to speak for themselves. Cost is really making these kits shine, so if anyone can make a conventional mounted turbo for the cost of these STS kits, then you have some ground to stand on. You can't really beat the $$ to HP/TQ ratio. Perspective moment Rob made 750-775 with his conventional turbo right, that kit was 7999.99 not installed. This kit is @3300 if you hit one of the dealers up and made 704, so a 70hp difference of 4700 bucks isn't that bad.....oh plus the cost of a 500 dollar N2O system.
Don't get me wrong Rob's kit is one of the baddest around but many people don't have that kind of cash to be throwing at their cars. If I had the extra 8-9grand, Robs kit would be on mine.
11.7@132mph with a DA of 6000ft with a 2.2 60ft imagine if he would have nailed a 1.50 60ft damn funny mount turbo lol.
. With my 3800vig the shifts drop to 4800 on the 1-2 and 2-3 so that would be right in the sweet spot everytime. It flashes to 4600 off the line so lag won't be that bad of a problem on an auto car I would think. Spray a lil N2O off the line to get things started and all should be good. You can argue about the performance of these kits all day long, but the numbers are starting to speak for themselves. Cost is really making these kits shine, so if anyone can make a conventional mounted turbo for the cost of these STS kits, then you have some ground to stand on. You can't really beat the $$ to HP/TQ ratio. Perspective moment Rob made 750-775 with his conventional turbo right, that kit was 7999.99 not installed. This kit is @3300 if you hit one of the dealers up and made 704, so a 70hp difference of 4700 bucks isn't that bad.....oh plus the cost of a 500 dollar N2O system.Don't get me wrong Rob's kit is one of the baddest around but many people don't have that kind of cash to be throwing at their cars. If I had the extra 8-9grand, Robs kit would be on mine.
11.7@132mph with a DA of 6000ft with a 2.2 60ft imagine if he would have nailed a 1.50 60ft
damn funny mount turbo lol. nitrous cars at the track i am at run 11.80s and have heads, cam, 150 shot and are not scared of the rearend breaking. Some people who think elevation does not matter much should come down here. With the kit rob has do you get to keep your ac and/or powersteering? Cant remember. My car is stock suspension, stock rear. I dont plan on it running a great time. I set my car up for street racing where here everyone wants to go from a punch. If i wanted a drag car i would get an automatic.So i am happy with my time. But mostly with the mph.