new numbers with sts kit
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From: Loganville, GA
Originally Posted by amacgt
nitrous cars at the track i am at run 11.80s and have heads, cam, 150 shot and are not scared of the rearend breaking. Some people who think elevation does not matter much should come down here. With the kit rob has do you get to keep your ac and/or powersteering? Cant remember. My car is stock suspension, stock rear. I dont plan on it running a great time. I set my car up for street racing where here everyone wants to go from a punch. If i wanted a drag car i would get an automatic.So i am happy with my time. But mostly with the mph.
Originally Posted by JRL96TA
Your forgetting that Rob's numbers were without nitrous.
But as forgetting about the N2O, I didn't its in there. I added in the cost of the 500 dollar N20 system, and the fact that it cost 4700 more than this kit. Without N2O the kit put down 564, that's about 186hp less than robs but still an excellent deal for its cost. If you want to pay 4700 more for 186hp go for it, a person can spend that money on a rear, tranny and the N20 kit lol, and make comparable numbers. You could run w/out n2o on the street and then go full killer w/n20 at the track. With 564rwhp its basically 99 percent faster than most of the cars you will run into on the street.
Now don't go switching up on this kit, lets keep on topic. Almost everyone on any board that saw this kit laughed at how it would never make any power, well its making power 564/704(n2o) isn't nothing to be ashamed of. Blackbird will be getting his soon, I hope his results are similar or better. I just want to see it on an auto with a large stall
AMACGT Great results and times, keep working on that 60ft.
J
I am not ragging on your time or anything. That MPH is very impressive, and to run it with a 2.2 60' means your car is really dishing out the power.
The thing I am hung up on is the nitrous kit. Couldn't you conceivably get similar times to what you are getting on nitrous alone? What is the difference between an STS with a 50 shot and a a head cam car with a 150 shot? You still haven't said how big of a shot you are running, either. Did you get any times without the nitrous?
I just don't see what the extra $5000 is getting you if you have a nitrous kit too. I'd just bump up the nitrous and call it a day. To say this is a great value compared to Rob's kit is a pretty weak argument in my book, because you are running nitrous. Everyone knows that nitrous is the absolute best bang for the buck there is.
-Geoff
The thing I am hung up on is the nitrous kit. Couldn't you conceivably get similar times to what you are getting on nitrous alone? What is the difference between an STS with a 50 shot and a a head cam car with a 150 shot? You still haven't said how big of a shot you are running, either. Did you get any times without the nitrous?
I just don't see what the extra $5000 is getting you if you have a nitrous kit too. I'd just bump up the nitrous and call it a day. To say this is a great value compared to Rob's kit is a pretty weak argument in my book, because you are running nitrous. Everyone knows that nitrous is the absolute best bang for the buck there is.
-Geoff
First off, GREAT numbers!! Wow.... very impressive to say the least... especially since it wasn't supposed to work.
And what everyone has to remember when comparing those two kits and their respective numbers is this... the amazing QMP kit numbers were obtained by the person/company selling the kit.... has any Joe Blow gotten those, or anything close on his own? (If they have please correct me.. I haven't seen the post yet). Nobody believed the numbers the STS kit made when the vendor released them, but with QMP they did. Now a non-shop car has to make amazing numbers before anyone believes them. That wasn't the case with the QMP kit...
A very similar comparison is when these big engine building companies release the numbers they got with their HC package.... people tend to be skeptical of those until normal people start getting the same numbers. That is the big difference.... real people getting real numbers that are representative of the advertising.
And what everyone has to remember when comparing those two kits and their respective numbers is this... the amazing QMP kit numbers were obtained by the person/company selling the kit.... has any Joe Blow gotten those, or anything close on his own? (If they have please correct me.. I haven't seen the post yet). Nobody believed the numbers the STS kit made when the vendor released them, but with QMP they did. Now a non-shop car has to make amazing numbers before anyone believes them. That wasn't the case with the QMP kit...
A very similar comparison is when these big engine building companies release the numbers they got with their HC package.... people tend to be skeptical of those until normal people start getting the same numbers. That is the big difference.... real people getting real numbers that are representative of the advertising.
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Originally Posted by RICE ETR
has any Joe Blow gotten those, or anything close on his own? (If they have please correct me.. I haven't seen the post yet).
i have had nitrous,blower, and turbo cars and to have just nitrous is boring. With a turbo it is fun all the time. build boost just cruising around and doesnt run out or have problems with relays or solenoids. Whats wrong with having both. I ran 12.0 at 124 with out the nitrous.
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Originally Posted by amacgt
i redynoed it with the new impeller and it did 570 horse and 604 torgue with 11 psi, With nitrous it did 704 horse and 830 torgue. I ran it at our track which was 6000 ft. air and hit the nitrous in the top of second since the rearend is still stock and it ran 11.7@132 with a 2.2 60ft. with just turbo it ran 12.0@124.
Ryan
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From: Loganville, GA
Originally Posted by Juggernaut
Maybe I just expect too much, but to me a 12.0 @124 seems a little slow to me for a car with 570/604. I dunno, maybe this board has made me a little jaded. Keep trying though, you will improve.
Ryan
Ryan
His car is not set up for drag racing. As he stated, its still got the stock suspension. give the man some credit for some good numbers that he got from going "outside the box".
Originally Posted by Juggernaut
Maybe I just expect too much, but to me a 12.0 @124 seems a little slow to me for a car with 570/604. I dunno, maybe this board has made me a little jaded. Keep trying though, you will improve.
Ryan
Ryan
i ran a 11.82@126 with a 1.99 60' with my turbotech kit (cost me $3k
)usaully when my 60' were up in the 2.2 range id run a low 12 @125ish
so thats pretty comprable.
if he got a 1.70 60' he would be in the tens no problem.
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Originally Posted by smokinHawk
Thats about right, considering if he is full weight.
i ran a 11.82@126 with a 1.99 60' with my turbotech kit (cost me $3k )
usaully when my 60' were up in the 2.2 range id run a low 12 @125ish
so thats pretty comprable.
if he got a 1.70 60' he would be in the tens no problem.
i ran a 11.82@126 with a 1.99 60' with my turbotech kit (cost me $3k
)usaully when my 60' were up in the 2.2 range id run a low 12 @125ish
so thats pretty comprable.
if he got a 1.70 60' he would be in the tens no problem.
Originally Posted by BLKWS6
Well it may seem that way but having a 2.2 60ft didnt help anything. If he woulda hooked on a 1.4 / 1.5 60ft...that woulda prolly ended up in the 10s or damn close. Its all about traction, DA, etc.....not just numbers. Guess LGs corvette that ran like a 12/13 @ like 13x should be doing better too, huh? His car is not set up for drag racing. As he stated, its still got the stock suspension.
give the man some credit for some good numbers that he got from going "outside the box".
His car is not set up for drag racing. As he stated, its still got the stock suspension. give the man some credit for some good numbers that he got from going "outside the box".
I believe once everyone gets the turbo sizing and spool up nailed for these kits, they will really perform.
Originally Posted by Juggernaut
Yeah maybe IF, maybe IF, I know. Just thught it should have been a little faster for nearly 600hp. Wasnt bashing, I said he would improve. Geez, sorry I hurt your feelings
I believe once everyone gets the turbo sizing and spool up nailed for these kits, they will really perform.
I believe once everyone gets the turbo sizing and spool up nailed for these kits, they will really perform.
You have to remember that he runs the car at a track that is around 6000 feet up. He is on a stock rear and has to baby it. He already broke one stock rearend in the car on the turbo alone!
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From: East Coast Kid
Originally Posted by amacgt
i redynoed it with the new impeller and it did 570 horse and 604 torgue with 11 psi, With nitrous it did 704 horse and 830 torgue. I ran it at our track which was 6000 ft. air and hit the nitrous in the top of second since the rearend is still stock and it ran 11.7@132 with a 2.2 60ft. with just turbo it ran 12.0@124. I think i need to put an automatic and a good rearend so that it can come out of the hole better.
those times at 6000 feet are pretty nice.....
oops guy above me mentioned it already
low et is nice and all but when he walks all over you on the drive back he'll be laughing lol
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Turbo cars are not effected the same at higher elevations like a N/A or S/C setup.
Jose
Jose
Correct, whatever you set the boost at, whether your at sea level or 6000ft, doesn't matter. A blower car that is pullied for 10psi at sea level will drop to about 6-7psi at elevation and N/A car will suffer as well. 140+ is wishful thinking for that STS car....lol.
Jose
Jose