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Old Apr 4, 2019 | 11:45 AM
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I have a gen 3 6.0 that I am putting an LSA supercharger on. It will have a btr stage 3 cam and a 2.5 blower pulley. Car won't be raced but will be a weekend cruiser. Is it really necessary to upgrade to gen 4 rods and pistons for what I am wanting to do?
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Old Apr 4, 2019 | 11:47 AM
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No. I wouldnt worry about the rods unless you're shooting for over 750whp.
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Old Apr 4, 2019 | 01:34 PM
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How much power you trying to push? Based on others's experience you'll probably be fine, FWIW I'm not sweating the ~500whp my car is making on an ls1 with gen 3 rods.
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 09:16 AM
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No. I wouldnt worry about the rods unless you're shooting for over 750whp.
heres a little question that i have, 750rwhp thats what at the crank? for example, 750rwhp is different from auto to manual to the crank.

750rwhp to the wheel in an auto im guessing is somewhere in the ball park of 916hp ( this is on one of those online calculator, which seems wrong to me but w.e. )

750rwhp to the wheels in an manual shows 864hp to the crank ( now im pretty sure its wrong but i know the two numbers between auto and manual would be different )

so how would i know what the "limit" is?
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 09:21 AM
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heres a little question that i have, 750rwhp thats what at the crank? for example, 750rwhp is different from auto to manual to the crank.

750rwhp to the wheel in an auto im guessing is somewhere in the ball park of 916hp ( this is on one of those online calculator, which seems wrong to me but w.e. )

750rwhp to the wheels in an manual shows 864hp to the crank ( now im pretty sure its wrong but i know the two numbers between auto and manual would be different )

so how would i know what the "limit" is?
You're talking a difference of 50fwhp between the 2 transmissions, not really a deal breaker. Most people pop the pistons first anyways, and don't have issues with the rods.
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 09:28 AM
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so you think 700 750 is doable on gen 3 guts?

i was going to do 600 650 lol
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Originally Posted by panda240ss
so you think 700 750 is doable on gen 3 guts?

i was going to do 600 650 lol
Yeah I wouldn't hesitate to do 700whp on gen 3 stuff. Its the pistons that are the concern.
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 12:08 PM
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i mean running e85 to help out a little and have a good tuner tune the car too. but yeah i get cha.

down the road ill like to pick up another gen 3 block and do gen 4 pistons and rods and ect.
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Originally Posted by panda240ss
i mean running e85 to help out a little and have a good tuner tune the car too. but yeah i get cha.

down the road ill like to pick up another gen 3 block and do gen 4 pistons and rods and ect.
i read sumwhere on here a good rule of thumb was 14 degrees of timing for 14 lbs of boost as a safe tune . so 16 lbs of boost would be 12 degrees of timing . an 12 lbs of boost would be 16 degrees of timing . thats the way im gonna tune
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Just for clarification as there seems to be some confusion. RWHP = Rear Wheel Horse Power. If the hp rating is at the crank, it is usually referred to as bhp, or brake horsepower. As stated, rwhp will vary based on a lot of considerations such as auto or manual, which auto, and what rear end among others. Some combos are known to suck more power, such as a turbo 400 with a 9" will eat up more hp than a 6spd with a 10 bolt.
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Old Apr 5, 2019 | 03:42 PM
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it's all in the tune. how good the tune/intercooler work as well as turbine sizeand cam all have an effect on how much timing it will take.. they will all be a little different.
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