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TECH Junkie
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I dunno man, I think the motor would have been fine, had the thing not been on the rev limiter for 6 days. And that is precisely why this motor came apart.....I'm convinced of it. Which brings me to the next point, NEVER let people drive your car, this Cameron guy is a prime example of what happens when you break this rule. I always cringe when people seem to think it's cool to bump against the limiter, they don't seem to realize how hard that is on the timing chain.
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TECH Junkie
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I can see why you guys say what you say, about the gasket issue/hurt rod. But I believe if that had been the issue, it would have manifested itself before now...in some way/fashion. Motors with hurt rods usually sound funny. Only an opinion of course, but I think that chain came apart first, then wrecked the motor afterwards. Hate that the man wasted 26hrs worth of driving, only to have this happen. I mean, didn't even get to make ONE hit. It's not even my car, and i was LIVID when I watched the in car footage, hopefully matt learns from this.
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From: Oskaloosa, Iowa
I can see why you guys say what you say, about the gasket issue/hurt rod. But I believe if that had been the issue, it would have manifested itself before now...in some way/fashion. Motors with hurt rods usually sound funny. Only an opinion of course, but I think that chain came apart first, then wrecked the motor afterwards. Hate that the man wasted 26hrs worth of driving, only to have this happen. I mean, didn't even get to make ONE hit. It's not even my car, and i was LIVID when I watched the in car footage, hopefully matt learns from this.
TECH Junkie
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At least he had the diaper and safety squared away so no one got hurt and minimized the down time at the track. The increased number of people trying to go fast with junk parts causing down time at the track had made drag racing less enjoyable for me. Last time I went I spent 5 hours to get 2 passes. Some of that was in line at tech and stuff, but still waiting on clean up sucks.
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From: Oskaloosa, Iowa
The big take away here was that safety was in place. Nothing is infallible $15,000+ built LS long blocks go boom some times too. I've seen more and more people trying to compete with junk parts locally making oil downs more and more common. Cars are so fast now and with forced induction almost too easy so people see a guy on youtube do it and they think yes I can compete with the big boys to. Then they oil down the track at a minimum or worse wreck the car because of broken parts. **** happens, but when you have 5 different oil downs on a test and tune with a few of them being severe taking over an hour to clean up it ruins it for everyone.
I'm on sbe myself, but it's only because it was the motor already in the car and I'm only around 600 rwhp. I plan to go with a built short block before pushing it much further, but may just drive it another year as it is since it runs so well. It all depends upon how long my patience lasts at this level because I do want to go faster.
Camron races his car alot. Maybe some of these guys throwing stones swap from car to car to car, but most don't. Going from a fully automatic D3 brake car to a manual VB or Reverse VB D1 brake is enough to throw anyone for a loop, let alone, hey jump in this car you know NOTHING about, and by the way, maybe make a single digit pass even if your completely uncomfortable in it.
IMO< it was a good effort from a guy who makes more passes than Matt. Mark was getting ready for Drag Week or I am sure he would have. I also agree with the fact it was probably hurt before the pass. What do you want from a Gen III 4.8 @ 25psi?
Good on ya Matt!!! Wish I had known you were down there, but due to circumstances, I did not or I would have at least said Hi. Maybe next year you can open a booth and sell sloppy socks or something....hell the line was LONG for Cleatus..........REAL LONG ......for a sombrero with the American flag under it????
IMO< it was a good effort from a guy who makes more passes than Matt. Mark was getting ready for Drag Week or I am sure he would have. I also agree with the fact it was probably hurt before the pass. What do you want from a Gen III 4.8 @ 25psi?
Good on ya Matt!!! Wish I had known you were down there, but due to circumstances, I did not or I would have at least said Hi. Maybe next year you can open a booth and sell sloppy socks or something....hell the line was LONG for Cleatus..........REAL LONG ......for a sombrero with the American flag under it????
yeah thats exactly what happened cam is so used to his car and his set up...forgot it was MVB th400
**** i cant even imagine trying to stage and race someone elses car...lol i can barely do my own after lots of practice
**** i cant even imagine trying to stage and race someone elses car...lol i can barely do my own after lots of practice
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Poor guy spends a ton of time just wasting parts. Seems like Gen 3 problems all around, Gen 4 stuff wouldn't have cared about that power level in the first place. Should have done that from the beginning instead of wasting 40+ hours on a junk gen 3 with stock gaskets. I also wouldn't have given the gen3 25PSI, that was just beggin for it to blowup and he got what he wanted. But I guess he gives the people what they want to see, people apparently like watching engines blowup.
As far as driving cars, its not out of the ordinary for me to drive 4+ cars during a track day. I jump from a manual car to a 6L80 to a TH400, etc just takes paying attention to what your doing.
As far as driving cars, its not out of the ordinary for me to drive 4+ cars during a track day. I jump from a manual car to a 6L80 to a TH400, etc just takes paying attention to what your doing.
TECH Junkie
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Poor guy spends a ton of time just wasting parts. Seems like Gen 3 problems all around, Gen 4 stuff wouldn't have cared about that power level in the first place. Should have done that from the beginning instead of wasting 40+ hours on a junk gen 3 with stock gaskets. I also wouldn't have given the gen3 25PSI, that was just beggin for it to blowup and he got what he wanted. But I guess he gives the people what they want to see, people apparently like watching engines blowup.
As far as driving cars, its not out of the ordinary for me to drive 4+ cars during a track day. I jump from a manual car to a 6L80 to a TH400, etc just takes paying attention to what your doing.
As far as driving cars, its not out of the ordinary for me to drive 4+ cars during a track day. I jump from a manual car to a 6L80 to a TH400, etc just takes paying attention to what your doing.
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