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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 09:31 AM
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I have a 370ci iron block that I originally built for NA but impulse led me to place a deposit on the HS twin kit.

Stock crank, forged H-beam rods, wiseco +4cc forged pistons. ~ 11.2:1 CR
Rings are gapped .026" top / .028" bottom
236/246 110 .612/.612 LSX cam
98 Camaro with RXT, T56, 35 spline 9" w/3.70 gears, 28" tire.

I know its not ideal but I would like to leave the setup alone for now. My short term goals are to hit 600-650whp at 8-10lbs until I am more confident in my ability to drive with more. Maybe after I'll build a new bottom end to lower the CR. I'd really like to have the turbos light off by 2500rpm, if not sooner. I'm worried that if I go too small though, I'll choke on the top end because of the CR and big cam.

The VSR turbos that I have been looking at are cast 61/62 T4 .82ar, or cast 67/65 T4 .96ar. Are either of these a good match? I know it's not much of a budget, but I'm trying to stay under $800 for the pair.

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With such low goals, go with the smaller.
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For the life of me, I can't understand people's fascination with twins, especially when they are looking to make only a little more than a strong head's cam setup.
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Originally Posted by Game ova
For the life of me, I can't understand people's fascination with twins, especially when they are looking to make only a little more than a strong head's cam setup.

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For the life of me, I can't understand people's fascination with twins, especially when they are looking to make only a little more than a strong head's cam setup.
Where are you finding H/C swaps that approach 600whp (and are street drive-able)? Short term(1-2 year) goal is the 600-650whp, but I'm not going to pretend that I won't turn it up at some point. I'm just trying to take it in steps so I don't destroy the car or myself right away.

I decided on twins for quicker spool. I was already removing ABS, AC & PS, so space wasn't a concern.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
With such low goals, go with the smaller.
What would be the upper limit of the 61mm? Would they choke out before 800whp?
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twin 64/68 and will make over 1000whp or VSR 6766
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What would be the upper limit of the 61mm? Would they choke out before 800whp?
Every 61mm may be different, and you weren't asking about 800. You said 600-650.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Every 61mm may be different, and you weren't asking about 800. You said 600-650.
Ok, thank you for your help.
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How high do you want to rev is the question. That'll be the trade off with spool. You could spool off idle practically but it'll be out of steam at 6k.
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6600-6800.
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That cam has a ton of overlap for a TT street setup stick car. You'd pick up spool and boost with a smaller cam that'll drive better. Id care less about which of those turbos to pick and more about your cam.
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Originally Posted by bj241205
Where are you finding H/C swaps that approach 600whp (and are street drive-able)? Short term(1-2 year) goal is the 600-650whp, but I'm not going to pretend that I won't turn it up at some point. I'm just trying to take it in steps so I don't destroy the car or myself right away.

I decided on twins for quicker spool. I was already removing ABS, AC & PS, so space wasn't a concern.
Thats generally not true, twins dont magically spool faster then a single. If both setups are properly sized for the power level they will spool similar. In many cases a single actually spools a little faster. For your power level I would pick a single every time unless space was a concern.

If all you want is 600-800hp a 76mm will be like a lightswitch on an 11:1 370. You can cam twins more like an NA car, but for a single I would back the cam down a bit.
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