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Old Dec 25, 2019 | 12:19 PM
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Merry Christmas everyone!

Last weekend I pick up a Vortech Supercharger kit from a kid in Dallas that was a pull-off from a wrecked SS Camaro. The kit is pretty complete minus a few things that I am needing to the source, the main problem is the crank pulley and damper assy where left on the car and the part number from Vortech seems to be discounted. Looks like an ATI damper may work as its a 6 rib design but no luck with a pulley, I have seen a universal pulley with both GM and ford bolt patterns but unsure if it will work, not much luck getting Vortech to return calls.

Vortech part numbers:
4GK116-031 CRANK PULLEY ASSEMBLY 1
4GK016-011 Damper Assy, 6 Rib 1
4GK018-031 Crank Pulley 1

Thanks in advance for any help and happy new year.

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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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I am removing my endorsement of RCMR.

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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 12:54 PM
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If anyone has pictures of this kit or pics of your install please let me know, I am working on completing this kit and there a few items that cannot be sourced that I need to fab.

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Wish I could help but I have no knowledge. Good luck to you.
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Some things to consider when you're looking into buying a used Vortech kit, I hope this will help anyone thinking about this, I didn't do my homework and it has been painful getting things sourced at times.

My kit was missing the following:

Power steering pump relocation bracket: this bracket does not exist anymore, you will have to make one or use https://www.summitracing.com/parts/h...SABEgKJ8PD_BwE, the problem is it will not fit the original relocation position as the vortech one did. I will post some pics of where I put mine later, this kit is about 70 bucks I think.

Power steering pump fitting: this is brass fitting, there now 4 left at vortech they are two-part numbers and over 50.00 bucks, the fitting comes in two pieces you will have to sweat them together, I sliver soldered mine.

Power steering pump fitting bracket: this do not exist anymore, you will have to make one, pretty straight forward I used a galvanized angle bracket from ace hardware and mocked it with some cardboard. used a leftover chassis tab to make a spacer to bet the retainer out far enough to hold the fitting in the pump. 20 bucks.

Power steering pump reservoir fitting: this no longer exists, you are just **** out of luck unless you can make one and trial and error it out.

Power steering pump high-pressure line: this does exist, for the 3 fittings if buy from vortech it will cost you about 120 bucks, I was able to source the fittings and have a line made at Midwest hose here in OKC, it cost me 26 dollars for all the fitting and line.

Coil pack relocation tabs: these don't exist anymore, I went down to smiles racing here in OKC and bought some chassis tabs and fab'ed them up to move the coil packs down 1.5 inches to clear the blower pipe. I think the tabs where about 20 bucks, hardware from ace was about 10 bucks.

Damper assembly: This is an ATI super damper they are still being made they are 460!!! bucks.

Crank pulley: this is not in existence anymore, I am currently dealing with ASP in texas, they have the actual drawings and are machining me one to spec, rather than trying to sell you a 10 rib pulley (these kits are 8 ribs) and make some spacer to make it "work". 350 bucks, 4 weeks lead time (we shall see how it goes.)

Aftercooler bracket: this is not in existence anymore, but the good news is it was a complete piece of crap from the get-go, vortech used a think bracket and the cooler sat on a piece of foam. I fab'ed an adjustable rod and welded a tab on the bottom of the intercooler to hold it off the coil pack and throttle assembly. about 60 bucks.

A/C canister relocation: Buy a number 52 clamp and remove the rubber from between the wheel well and it will move the canister over enough to clear the aftercooler fittings. .60 cents

EGR relocation kit: doesn't exist anymore, this car has TSP long tubes and EGR is deleted already, I would just buy a delete kit they are cheap, 65 bucks or something.

Belt tensioner: Same one used on the 5.0 kits, DO NOT buy this from vortech, they charged me over 100 bucks and it didn't even come with the damn idler pulley and dust cover, that was another 60 bucks from Summit, they are still available.

Fuel pump and injector: bought a set of FIC 60lbs from a guy on here for 245 bucks, and Racetronix 255lph hotwire kit for 262 bucks. I think this will be much better than the original vortech set up of having a booster.


Most important things I have learned,
  • The small things add up big time if the kit is missing anywhere near the above its worth about 800 to 100 bucks in my opinion.
  • Avoid buying from vortech they are extremely overpriced and most of this stuff is COT's.(commercial of the shelf items)
  • If you have someone make your parts agree to an ETD and hold them to it! don't waste your time with someone that cant manage themselves, there are other options out there just have to look harder.
  • Make sure the person that is making the parts has the engineering drawing and is actually making you the parts you need, not buying a 10 rib pulley and making a spacer to make something "work". P.S. there is no spacer on these kits between the pulley and damper, the offset is built into the pulley.
Thanks, more to come hopefully!
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 11:10 PM
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Hopefully these pics will help , I pulled my g trim off 2 years ago
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thanks, brother they do!
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wow...never seen a setup like that before
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That’s a unique power steering fitting, this is one I got from vortech and the bracket it fab’Ed.




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I have an rmcr kit. The pulley that can with the kit didnt line up perfectly and needed a spacer. We used washers behind the pulley, worked great. I just got a larger 10" diameter 8 rib crank pulley from lingenfelter. They said I got the last one they had and they were on backorder. But they may have other diameter pulleys available.
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Yeah I had nothing but issues with RMRC, I don’t recommend them. I used lee cooper out of Texas API or APS I think is the company name, he machined me the pulley from the vortech drawings and it works perfectly and was done before the deadline he provided. I would be pretty upset if I paid the kinda of coin mike at RMCR wants for something that I had to shim with washers.
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Old Feb 12, 2020 | 09:18 PM
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this is the crank pinned to the damper and shot of the pulley from the top I’ll post a better pic tomorrow or Friday. This way if anyone comes across the same issue they have a good option.
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Originally Posted by Tony02WS6
Yeah I had nothing but issues with RMRC, I don’t recommend them. I used lee cooper out of Texas API or APS I think is the company name, he machined me the pulley from the vortech drawings and it works perfectly and was done before the deadline he provided. I would be pretty upset if I paid the kinda of coin mike at RMCR wants for something that I had to shim with washers.
I got my kit used and cheap, so I didnt mind the shims behind the pulley. I believe the company name is ASP? Glad to hear that they were able to help you. I will most likely need to call them once I need a 10 rib.
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I will get a pic up today of it installed, getting close to the first start, so I am pretty jacked to hear it whistle. Lee did me right and the price was 350.00, plus shipping. What psi are you running with the larger 10 inch, the factory is an 8 inch so just curious.
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Most important things I have learned,
  • Avoid buying from vortech they are extremely overpriced and most of this stuff is COT's.(commercial of the shelf items)
You aren't kidding on this one. I just looked them up and their tuner kits are too expensive. Complete kits are more expensive than ATI's ProCharger kits which, by all accounts are superior in terms of included hardware, ease of installation etc.
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No experience with the Procharger kit, but seems better the passenger side is less cluttered with ABS modules etc.
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Originally Posted by Tony02WS6
I will get a pic up today of it installed, getting close to the first start, so I am pretty jacked to hear it whistle. Lee did me right and the price was 350.00, plus shipping. What psi are you running with the larger 10 inch, the factory is an 8 inch so just curious.
Don't know yet, car is still at the shop. I'm using a 3.125 upper and gonna spin my ysi well past vortech's limit. So hopefully it will move a lot of air 🤞
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Originally Posted by tedcraig619
Don't know yet, car is still at the shop. I'm using a 3.125 upper and gonna spin my ysi well past vortech's limit. So hopefully it will move a lot of air 🤞
. Good luck brother hope she holds.
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Originally Posted by Tony02WS6
. Good luck brother hope she holds.
it's a new head unit so I'm hoping it holds until I can upgrade to a B next winter.
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