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Old May 4, 2020 | 11:07 PM
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2000 5.3L. Twin GT35’s What happened to these bearings. Rod bearing then main bearing. There is no bluing of journals like from oil starvation. We’re they overloaded ? 12.5psi boost. 15 deg timing



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Old May 4, 2020 | 11:48 PM
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Just my unprofessional opinion....Oil starvation + trash damage, Possibly detonation.
Did you have any signs of detonation? Have you looked at the pistons?
You won't always see bluing, Bluing is usually the result of running the engine that's already damaged longer than needed or failure at sustained high rpm.
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Old May 5, 2020 | 12:38 AM
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no detonation. Have looked at pistons. Pretty conservative timing.

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Just my unprofessional opinion....Oil starvation + trash damage, Possibly detonation.
Did you have any signs of detonation? Have you looked at the pistons?
You won't always see bluing, Bluing is usually the result of running the engine that's already damaged longer than needed or failure at sustained high rpm.
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What's the history with the motor?
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Old May 5, 2020 | 05:43 AM
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lotta trash went thru there
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Old May 5, 2020 | 08:11 AM
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wrecker motor, but all bearings were mint when I took it apart to gap rings.

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Old May 5, 2020 | 08:54 AM
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thays what I thought at first. But there is nothing embedded in the bearings like you get with crap going through, it really does not look like that in person, and only me works on this and I’m super careful about not getting **** into the engine.

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Lost oil pressure? Low oil level? didnt prime the engine with oil before cranking?
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Old May 5, 2020 | 09:23 AM
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no loss per data log. Oil level is fine but it a Holley pan and doesn’t hold a ton.

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Lost oil pressure? Low oil level? didnt prime the engine with oil before cranking?
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Originally Posted by parrisw
wrecker motor, but all bearings were mint when I took it apart to gap rings.
What type of oil are you running???
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5w30 synthetic.

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What does the crank look like? Did you measure the clearance on the bearings while you had it apart? Just because they looked good doesn't mean the clearances weren't too large.
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looks fine.

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What does the crank look like? Did you measure the clearance on the bearings while you had it apart? Just because they looked good doesn't mean the clearances weren't too large.
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Originally Posted by parrisw
5w30 synthetic.
I can't speak for others but I ran diesel spec motor oil in mine. 5W40 Rotella T6

Stock bearings, Even re used them after bending 2 rods.

It looks like the bearing had either trash go through it or the bearings where beat out of it.

Be curious to see if the crank is straight or bent.
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What power did you make with the twins?
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Old May 6, 2020 | 08:46 AM
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ya I think it’s been beat. Broke the oil film down. I was thinking of 15w40 next engine. Pretty sure nothing went through it. Ya some people have good luck with junkyard turbo builds. I didn’t. I ran it NA for three years first.

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I can't speak for others but I ran diesel spec motor oil in mine. 5W40 Rotella T6

Stock bearings, Even re used them after bending 2 rods.

It looks like the bearing had either trash go through it or the bearings where beat out of it.

Be curious to see if the crank is straight or bent.
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I’m not too sure never had it on a dyno. But prob around 600tire. Pistons and plugs all look mint. Actually have some tight piston pins too. Not sure why there?

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Old May 6, 2020 | 09:48 AM
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Which main location, rear? What do the other rod and main bearings look like? Bypass valve in pan stuck open?
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#1 rod bearing and #3 & #4 main. Still had good oil pressure on the last drive on datalog.

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Which main location, rear? What do the other rod and main bearings look like? Bypass valve in pan stuck open?
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Old May 6, 2020 | 06:02 PM
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nope.....it has definitely been starved of oil.

Although you seem to imply not all the bearings are like this ?
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