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Old May 28, 2020 | 09:22 AM
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Hey everyone. Looking at going from a single to a twin set up on my 2000 F-Body. Currently, my setup has the A/C deleted, but that's gotta change since this is a street car that makes trips to the store. I was doing some looking and there are a few kits out there, but since I have a good majority of what I need, being boosted already, I was wondering if there were some headers out there that could facilitate front mounted twin turbos while retaining A/C

Ran across a couple vague references about the headers from a C5, but nothing concrete. The only good answer might be to get some custom ones for my specific needs, but wanted to try the vast knowledge of the interwebs to see if there are other options.

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See if you can get the Huron speed hot side.
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See if you can get the Huron speed hot side.
Alright I will look into that. Thanks
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See if you can get the Huron speed hot side.
@rwb The Huron speed hit side requires ac removal. So that won’t work for what I want
https://huronspeed.com/product/new-h...n-t4-hot-side/
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*Kit requires: Stood up radiator with coolant hoses and fans to clear piping/turbo. A/C removal. Turbo Style K-member required if wanting to run the downpipes out the back. Can use the bumper exit downpipes with use of a factory K-member. Requires Cold-Side, turbos, wastegates, BOVs, and Oil lines as well to complete (all of which we can supply)
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The APS twin kit (available through Huron) retains A/C.

The Huron single turbo kit retains A/C.
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Old Jun 16, 2020 | 04:51 PM
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The APS twin kit (available through Huron) retains A/C.

The Huron single turbo kit retains A/C.
Thanks for the info, I will check these out
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Build your own using a driver side truck manifold and a passenger side corvette (LS3) manifold.
Truck mani on driver side and corvette on passenger side, that's how the Huron V1 system kept AC.
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Originally Posted by AwesomeAuto
The APS twin kit (available through Huron) retains A/C.

The Huron single turbo kit retains A/C.
Here was the exchange with Huron:
Me -
I currently have a single turbo FBody Camaro. I removed the A/C to get the equipment in there. I want to return the A/C to the car AND switch to a twin setup.
As you might imagine, I have many of the pieces already so a full kit is unnecessary for me. But I did notice it was hard to find just the headers for an A/C retaining build.
My question is, would it be possible to buy JUST the exhaust headers and the exhaust pieces that lead to the piece with the T4 connection? Looking at the kit, it looks like the piping that mounts the turbo is all one piece, I do NOT need that piece, but everything from in between the headers and it.
Would that be possible? If so what would it cost?
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We do not offer a T4 twin kit that retains AC. Our twin kit that retains AC for the F-body can be found here: https://huronspeed.com/product/f-bod...tyle-twin-kit/ . We are not too interested in just selling pieces of a kit as everything we do is designed to work together.

As I stated in the the original post and to Huron, I already have a a single turbo so I have lots of pieces already and don't need another kit that just comes with lots of parts I don't need and makes me pay for them. Sounds like I need to come up with another solution

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Build your own using a driver side truck manifold and a passenger side corvette (LS3) manifold.
Truck mani on driver side and corvette on passenger side, that's how the Huron V1 system kept AC.
This is also what I found while I was doing some research which is why I mentioned the C5 headers in my original post. I just really want to make sure that it will suffice before I go and buy a pair of them, or I guess just one? I already have the truck mani on the driver side from the On3 kit that my single turbo is currently using.
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Originally Posted by AGM17
Here was the exchange with Huron:
Me -
I currently have a single turbo FBody Camaro. I removed the A/C to get the equipment in there. I want to return the A/C to the car AND switch to a twin setup.
As you might imagine, I have many of the pieces already so a full kit is unnecessary for me. But I did notice it was hard to find just the headers for an A/C retaining build.
My question is, would it be possible to buy JUST the exhaust headers and the exhaust pieces that lead to the piece with the T4 connection? Looking at the kit, it looks like the piping that mounts the turbo is all one piece, I do NOT need that piece, but everything from in between the headers and it.
Would that be possible? If so what would it cost?
Thanks

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We do not offer a T4 twin kit that retains AC. Our twin kit that retains AC for the F-body can be found here: https://huronspeed.com/product/f-bod...tyle-twin-kit/ . We are not too interested in just selling pieces of a kit as everything we do is designed to work together.

As I stated in the the original post and to Huron, I already have a a single turbo so I have lots of pieces already and don't need another kit that just comes with lots of parts I don't need and makes me pay for them. Sounds like I need to come up with another solution


This is also what I found while I was doing some research which is why I mentioned the C5 headers in my original post. I just really want to make sure that it will suffice before I go and buy a pair of them, or I guess just one? I already have the truck mani on the driver side from the On3 kit that my single turbo is currently using.
The bend off the corvette manifold is a little sharp with the Huron speed kit so there is probably room for improvement there but otherwise it works great for me.
Turbo spools fast and makes excellent power for the combination, I think since you're fabbing it up you could easily change to a T6 flange and make all the power.
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The bend off the corvette manifold is a little sharp with the Huron speed kit so there is probably room for improvement there but otherwise it works great for me.
Turbo spools fast and makes excellent power for the combination, I think since you're fabbing it up you could easily change to a T6 flange and make all the power.
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As much as I appreciate the gesture, I am actually going to go with some fairly small turbos. Pair of precision 5862s as recommended by precision and my shop in order to accomplish the goals for the build. It's mostly a street car, making daily trips to work and weekly trips to the grocery store. But I do like to go beat on it at a road track about 3 times a year.

To make sure I understand you correctly, what you are saying is that the piping that Huron uses to plumb off of the stock vette mani starts heading towards the front of the car too quickly? Is that the 'sharp' you're referring to? I think you are right, since I will be making pipes after finding the right manifolds I should be able to make it do exactly what I want. My shop guys might even just make me some headers if we can't find something we really like from the current options available
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As much as I appreciate the gesture, I am actually going to go with some fairly small turbos. Pair of precision 5862s as recommended by precision and my shop in order to accomplish the goals for the build. It's mostly a street car, making daily trips to work and weekly trips to the grocery store. But I do like to go beat on it at a road track about 3 times a year.

To make sure I understand you correctly, what you are saying is that the piping that Huron uses to plumb off of the stock vette mani starts heading towards the front of the car too quickly? Is that the 'sharp' you're referring to? I think you are right, since I will be making pipes after finding the right manifolds I should be able to make it do exactly what I want. My shop guys might even just make me some headers if we can't find something we really like from the current options available
Ah I see, I was mistaken as well.
So my setup is a single turbo and yes the bend coming off the corvette manifold back to the front of the car is a bit sharp, right off the flange, it could be better because there is plenty of room.
I'd suggest using a stock manifold setup for a twin street car, it will hold heat better, have better longevity and be more cost effective.
You could do corvette manifolds on both sides and go around the alternator and ac compressor, seen that done before.
In fact I've got a corvette LS3 driver side manifold you can have for the price of shipping, its in excellent shape too.
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Originally Posted by The ******
Ah I see, I was mistaken as well.
So my setup is a single turbo and yes the bend coming off the corvette manifold back to the front of the car is a bit sharp, right off the flange, it could be better because there is plenty of room.
I'd suggest using a stock manifold setup for a twin street car, it will hold heat better, have better longevity and be more cost effective.
You could do corvette manifolds on both sides and go around the alternator and ac compressor, seen that done before.
In fact I've got a corvette LS3 driver side manifold you can have for the price of shipping, its in excellent shape too.
PM sent on the manifold!! Thanks!
I am going to really try to keep the alternator relocated to the top passenger side of the engine, like most single turbo cars do when they remove the A/C, and just put the A/C back in the original spot on the lower passenger side. Not sure it will fit because of the belt sizes and availability, but in my dream world that is what will happen. In this dream the driver side manifold can basically be anything as long as it doesn't get in the way of the PS pump. Once we get to working on it and know more about the exact details of what we need, we can make our decisions on that. But this has been some really good info on how to plumb around the accessories AND it's really nice to hear that there can be extra clearance created on the passenger side when comparing to the Huron Speed kits
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