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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
Every "zero F's given" grenaded motor was a perfectly good swap candidate, that could have ran in a vehicle for another 100,000 miles... extending both the engine's and the vehicle's lifecycles for years... keeping both out of the landfills for a decade.

Instead, someone blew it up, knowing d@mn-well that they were going to blow it up. As if they blew it up on purpose. It's wasteful. And inconsiderate.

If you know, d@mn-well, that you want big boy power (the sort of power that grenades SBE motors), then you should build accordingly. What is the age-old idiom... Gotta pay to play?

Yeah, it's a hobby... enjoy it however you can. Doesn't give you free reign to be a wasteful, selfish @$$ abusing perfectly fine motors that others could use for years. It's not a matter of jealously. I want people to have nice things. I also want people to have nice things... so I don't like hearing about other people giving zero F's about ruining nice things. Sure, it's a freaking JY motor... a JY motor that could keep an old, beat up Ford out of scrap yard for another 20 years... unless some D-bag blows it up on the track, just to go get another one to destroy...
I've been beating the crap out of SBE 5.3's for over a decade and I've only blown one up to an unusable state. The rest I simply replaced the stock pieces that failed with forged parts and kept them living, often in other vehicles. So I'm not sure why others wouldn't do the same thing? Just because someone beats on something stock doesn't mean you have to be careless about it, you can often catch an issue before it becomes catastrophic.
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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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****, this thread went off the rails real quick complete with male frontal nudity and everything.
Some people in this forum need to put their big boy pants on and park their emotions, read the ops question and if your answer doesn't directly pertain to the subject matter then move on and stfu.

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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The ******
****, this thread went off the rails real quick complete with male frontal nudity and everything.
Some people in this forum need to put their big boy pants on and park their emotions, read the ops question and if your answer doesn't directly pertain to the subject matter then move on and stfu.
At least it's the OP's own male frontal nudity to post in the OP's own post.

And it's not like this ever was a discussion about curing cancer or solving life's great mysteries... I am sure the thread can recover from a handful of posts talking about being mindful of others as we pursue our hobbies.

Additionally, I believe the question has been answered. At this point, it doesn't matter where the discission goes, unless we want to keep answering the same question again. We can talk about football and porno and books about war...
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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
Disposable motors seems like a damn wasteful mindset, honestly. What you consider disposable could have been a reliable swap for someone else that wasn't going to just blow it up like an @$$hole.

Maybe if you want big power, you should build for it, instead of ruining multuple perfectly decent swap candidates before finally realizing you should have built big in the first place.

Disposable motors... disgusting.
interesting perspective.

I suppose I look at it the other way, there is no shortage of 4.8 or 5.3 short blocks out there, and the alternative is that they sit in a junkyard and collect rust…

When the 5.3 in my buddies wife’s trailblazer killed itself, it’s not like we had a problem finding a sub $1000 complete motor to replace it.
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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 08:45 PM
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My ls3 block took quite the *** whipping and is still fine. Started as a Mast motorsports long block built in 2010 . Was a 416 with a procharger and went 9.40s. In 2017 swapped only the cam and switched to twin turbos and went 8.70 @ 157 at around 3650# race weight @ 17 lbs of boost. Drove it alot on the street and beat it like it owed me money. Never had any issue with the ls3 block at that level. Still running fine to this day after 10 years.
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidBoren
At least it's the OP's own male frontal nudity to post in the OP's own post.

And it's not like this ever was a discussion about curing cancer or solving life's great mysteries... I am sure the thread can recover from a handful of posts talking about being mindful of others as we pursue our hobbies.

Additionally, I believe the question has been answered. At this point, it doesn't matter where the discission goes, unless we want to keep answering the same question again. We can talk about football and porno and books about war...
How dare you assume the cure for cancer doesn't lie within the structural secrets of the mysterious LS3 block.
I feel like the quote about football, porno and books of war is a movie quote lol.
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Chad99
My ls3 block took quite the *** whipping and is still fine. Started as a Mast motorsports long block built in 2010 . Was a 416 with a procharger and went 9.40s. In 2017 swapped only the cam and switched to twin turbos and went 8.70 @ 157 at around 3650# race weight @ 17 lbs of boost. Drove it alot on the street and beat it like it owed me money. Never had any issue with the ls3 block at that level. Still running fine to this day after 10 years.
Sounds like a solid setup. ~1000whp based on track info. What crank? Pull timing or boost around peak tq and then load it back in?
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 02:13 PM
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Compstar crank and rods, no timing or boost pulled through the middle.
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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LS3 Block will handle 6000 horse power - prove me wrong!!! Mods - Done close this discussion!!
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Old Oct 14, 2020 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The ******
How dare you assume the cure for cancer doesn't lie within the structural secrets of the mysterious LS3 block.
I feel like the quote about football, porno and books of war is a movie quote lol.
The quote is from Dennis Leary's "I'm an @$$hole" song. Lol.

And the cure for cancer may not lie in the structural secrets of the mysterious LS3 block, but the cure for boredom is there somewhere, and depending on how deep you go looking, the cure for money in the bank, and quite possibly the cure for having a wife...
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Old Oct 15, 2020 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chad99
Compstar crank and rods, no timing or boost pulled through the middle.
Thanks. A good CCW crank gonna help reduce/minimize block stresses and increase reliability >1000whp.
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