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Old Apr 22, 2021 | 02:14 PM
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I hope it's just that lol.
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Old Apr 22, 2021 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
rings it is lol.
How'd the rings get glazed so easily?
Don't you have to run the engine at reduced power while everything seats in?
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Old Apr 22, 2021 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The ******
How'd the rings get glazed so easily?
Don't you have to run the engine at reduced power while everything seats in?
LoL, after I did an initial heat cycle and engine braking and changed the oil I was hitting 7000 rpms. I don't buy into the gentle break-ins.
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Old Apr 22, 2021 | 10:30 PM
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I have never bought into that baby it to break in stuff. After the initial start up and run up to temp a couple times. I beat the crap out of it like I stole it. Never had an engine glaze rings.

I work on big diesels and we have people come in all the time after a rebuild with 7 to 10,000 miles on the rebuild with blow by out the butt. Put em on the chassis dyno and load the **** out of it at full power and bam rings break in and the blow by is gone. Don't baby a new engine. Use it like it's gonna be used.

Just my opinion anyways.
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Old Apr 23, 2021 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
LoL, after I did an initial heat cycle and engine braking and changed the oil I was hitting 7000 rpms. I don't buy into the gentle break-ins.
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I have never bought into that baby it to break in stuff. After the initial start up and run up to temp a couple times. I beat the crap out of it like I stole it. Never had an engine glaze rings.

I work on big diesels and we have people come in all the time after a rebuild with 7 to 10,000 miles on the rebuild with blow by out the butt. Put em on the chassis dyno and load the **** out of it at full power and bam rings break in and the blow by is gone. Don't baby a new engine. Use it like it's gonna be used.

Just my opinion anyways.
Well and that makes sense in a race engine too right?
Those guys don't putt around for a while, its straight to the strip.
God I remember the days of breaking in flat tappet cams lol.
I've heard a lot of the old school car say the same thing, break it in like you intend to use it.
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Old Apr 23, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by The ******
Well and that makes sense in a race engine too right?
Those guys don't putt around for a while, its straight to the strip.
God I remember the days of breaking in flat tappet cams lol.
I've heard a lot of the old school car say the same thing, break it in like you intend to use it.
it's interesting because even the OEMs vary. Some say no WOT or boost the first 1000 miles....and others dyno their cars before they leave the factory lol.
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Old Jul 17, 2021 | 07:10 AM
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Bumping this cause I'd like to know what the outcome was
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Old Jun 12, 2023 | 07:27 AM
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Did you end up finding the source of the problem, was it a fueling issue? I having the exact same thing going on. I'll be doing a compression test this afternoon.
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Hard to tell as there are too many variables. But I have been on the tuning side of these builds and there are so many things that can hurt one . From a tuning stand point it is very hard to make a perfect tune on a dyno.

a 5 second dyno pull will not replicate a 9 or 10 second quarter mile pass nor will it truly tell you you have enough fuel pump for the application.

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not to mention a cooled down dyno tune with a good fan is to aggressive for a full 3 gear pull on an engine that is hot and been running a hour and is all heat soaked .

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Load is a fickle thing. I only tune street/track for that reason.
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Originally Posted by yenkomike
Hard to tell as there are too many variables. But I have been on the tuning side of these builds and there are so many things that can hurt one . From a tuning stand point it is very hard to make a perfect tune on a dyno.

a 5 second dyno pull will not replicate a 9 or 10 second quarter mile pass nor will it truly tell you you have enough fuel pump for the application.

case in point I have made 705 hp to the wheels with a single aem 400 pump at 14 psi boost knowing damn well it won’t make a pass at the track above 11 psi without loosing fuel pressure o E85.

not to mention a cooled down dyno tune with a good fan is to aggressive for a full 3 gear pull on an engine that is hot and been running a hour and is all heat soaked .

tune might be great but that doesn’t mean the end user didn’t use it in a way that the tuner didn’t expect. Especially on pump gas .
This is why I'm a big fan of tuning on the street/strip, I know the street is not the safest setting, but you get the most accurate data and tune imho.
You're using the car as intended in its intended environment so there are no surprises.
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