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I stared at these pics and my car for awhile last night, I was trying to convince myself but I just can't see a way this fits in a C6 without a good bit of work. Also it appears like the front wastegate interferes pretty hard for guys that run a motor plate.
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
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[QUOTE=SLOW SEDAN;20454532]I stared at these pics and my car for awhile last night, I was trying to convince myself but I just can't see a way this fits in a C6 without a good bit of work. Also it appears like the front wastegate interferes pretty hard for guys that run a motor plate.
We're not sure either. We think this manifold at this price is going to find it's way into a lot of more common applications first, but the performance will be there for those fast guys at the other end of the scale that seem to always find a way.
Looks like it would fit my 2nd gen Fbody, turbo might be a little high for hood clearance but. I dont think my cut up stock manifold is going to last very long, hopefully someone will try it soon.
I question how effective the WG placed at 90 degrees is really going to be. I've always been told that is a big no no and will cause overboost issues because the gate isn't seeing actual pressure.
The gate on the front looks great, in my limited internet opinion.
I question how effective the WG placed at 90 degrees is really going to be. I've always been told that is a big no no and will cause overboost issues because the gate isn't seeing actual pressure.
The gate on the front looks great, in my limited internet opinion.
I'm with you but also thinking it application/combo dependent, I've seen things work that shouldn't and things that should work don't.
Best laid plans and all that lol.
I question how effective the WG placed at 90 degrees is really going to be. I've always been told that is a big no no and will cause overboost issues because the gate isn't seeing actual pressure.
The gate on the front looks great, in my limited internet opinion.
Looks like it has 2 locations for the WG placement, the other location is right inline with the flow of exhaust.
So with 2 44mm WG I dont think there will be any problem with boost creep
Last edited by Ls7colorado; 09-01-2022 at 03:19 PM.
Looks like it has 2 locations for the WG placement, the other location is right inline with the flow of exhaust.
So with 2 44mm WG I dont think there will be any problem with boost creep
Exactly. It's important to understand we are literally doubling gate area per cylinder vs. nearly any other Single turbo manifold. Flow will not be an issue.
Not on my car, and my engine is far enough forward to use the truck ac compressor location. I think I can manage a 3.5" downpipe. This straight piece has 1/4 inch clearance at the corner of the firewall and the edge of the manifold flange.
Not on my car, and my engine is far enough forward to use the truck ac compressor location. I think I can manage a 3.5" downpipe. This straight piece has 1/4 inch clearance at the corner of the firewall and the edge of the manifold flange.
This was a big area of concern when I compared the Summit manifold with the Hooker manifold. The Hooker manifold has the inlet from the driver's side much lower and tucked closer to the block.
Also, don't forget you need room for the driver's side pipe and a v-band clamp at that joint. I think even a 3'5" downpipe will be close.
This is a very good design that will fit well in a g-body. Cross-under pipe is going to fit well and I will be able to make a sweet 3.5" DP with attaching waste gate pipes over and under the manifold.
Be interesting how it fits on my G body, I am using the Hooker engine mounts, so the head is close to the firewall. I am using the Holley turbo manifolds, kind of worried about the manifold/engine mount on the pass side, I vision it melting in the future, lol. I have it all plumbed up with a 4" DP, which is a must. I have everything off being painted, be nice to have a manifold to test fit. How was the turbo placement, room to plumb the intercooler, etc.
I am using Spohn F/G body mounts on the frame with the 4th generation camaro/LS clamshell engine mounts. It gives you the freedom to mount the engine wherever. For me, the Chevy truck A/C compressor dictated for/aft location. That gives me more head to firewall distance, giving me room for a 3.5 DP. Intake and intercooler plumbing side are wide open.
How is your build going along? I'm trying to decide if I get this log or just take my time and build something. My only issue is probably keeping the stock a/c box.
Rich words. I could send a 20 dollar bill to China and they would ask me to pay for tooling before producing. Owning tooling != completely unique. Scribing your name on the top hat != completely unique. If it's completely unique, why is it blatantly the exact same thing as Tials NEW unit? I understand their wastegate from 20 years ago is copied and standard, ok fine. Tial moved on and innovated. Only to have Summit copy their NEW unit and brand it as their own. Wow.
I actually emailed Tial, and here is their response:
Tial,
I see the Summit SUM-260072 is your MV-R. Are they your units rebranded? Is there a difference? Because they have theirs at now 89usd and yours is at 434usd. Thanks!
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Hello,
Sorry for the late reply.
These are not rebranded Tial units. These are knock off units that Summit has decided to brand themselves.
Skeptical? Call or email them yourself. This is egregious AF.
09-01-2022, 09:25 AM
