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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 06:37 AM
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I have the GM maf in a 5" tube. I don't use it for anything other than actual airflow data.

But this was right around 11,000hz , fairly decent power, over 200mph in a standing half on the highway.

To give you the idea on range in a 5" duct
Do you have a pic of it installed. It's just a huge tube to fit under the hood of an Fbody with factory everything lol.
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 09:58 AM
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Yeah I have more room than most
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 10:07 AM
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Holy real estate. I wouldn't have guessed you had that kind of room in the RX7. I think first thing first is see if I can create a spacer.
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 04:04 PM
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So I stopped by the HP Tuners tent at LS Fest. I was talking with whoever the guy was there. It was a conversation about tuning SD vs MAF. Anyway, he said something to the effect of they have a patch or something to change the maximum value on a MAF? I don't know anything about it, and have certainly never done it, but it may be worth a question to HP Tuners tech support. I would think one of the tuners that have responded on here would know about it though. Perhaps it's new?
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc

I have the GM maf in a 5" tube. I don't use it for anything other than actual airflow data.

But this was right around 11,000hz , fairly decent power, over 200mph in a standing half on the highway.

To give you the idea on range in a 5" duct
Daumn! 👍
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 04:35 PM
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Might Take a look at a Porsche 911 MAF(~ 2003-2005) , it's a blade style but should be designed for much higher average velocity.
Its similar to the late model GM one, it just has a different/German plug..
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rpturbo
So I stopped by the HP Tuners tent at LS Fest. I was talking with whoever the guy was there. It was a conversation about tuning SD vs MAF. Anyway, he said something to the effect of they have a patch or something to change the maximum value on a MAF? I don't know anything about it, and have certainly never done it, but it may be worth a question to HP Tuners tech support. I would think one of the tuners that have responded on here would know about it though. Perhaps it's new?
If I remember right that is either the 99+ ecu or certain vette ecus. Good thought for sure, but I'm in 98 world.
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead
Might Take a look at a Porsche 911 MAF(~ 2003-2005) , it's a blade style but should be designed for much higher average velocity.
Its similar to the late model GM one, it just has a different/German plug..
Intriguing!
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I happened to notice it once when I had my search on line borked and got BOTH a late model GM blade style
and the 911 one a the same time. "suggested" LOL.. I pulled the one on the 911 and its in about a 3.5 inch tube.
Engine turns 7500 and its a 3.8 so the velocity range in that intake tube must be fairly fast ..
Its also not terribly expensive I Rock had them... Delphi for 85 bucks, Cardone for 35..
For 35 might be worth a test, upgrade to the Delphi or the Bosche for 147 if it works?

Its a 5 pin sensor with a thermistor for MAT/IAT
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead
I happened to notice it once when I had my search on line borked and got BOTH a late model GM blade style
and the 911 one a the same time. "suggested" LOL.. I pulled the one on the 911 and its in about a 3.5 inch tube.
Engine turns 7500 and its a 3.8 so the velocity range in that intake tube must be fairly fast ..
Its also not terribly expensive I Rock had them... Delphi for 85 bucks, Cardone for 35..
For 35 might be worth a test, upgrade to the Delphi or the Bosche for 147 if it works?

Its a 5 pin sensor with a thermistor for MAT/IAT
is that the NA or boosted 3.8? If it's NA it's apples and oranges. If boosted then we may have something.
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Why would you not want to go to a 411 pcm in a boosted 98? Why so anti SD? A 98 pcm and boost is about the worst combination you can have IMO. With factory pcm having no safety's I would not run a maf in a high hp boosted setup. Every MAF I have seen fail has made the car go lean, the last thing I want under alot of boost. If dead set on maf then the 411 swap would be well worth the 1/2 a day it would take to re-pin the harness to swap it over IMO.
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 01:07 PM
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The 411 or 4896 are quite capable.
The 98 is a saddle. Valuable if you sell, very few good ones around.
my car runs great SD 3 bar. Cam is mild, easy to tune runs 8’s
Buddies truck I tune runs easy 8.60’s all day. Also a small cam.
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by minytrker
Why would you not want to go to a 411 pcm in a boosted 98? Why so anti SD? A 98 pcm and boost is about the worst combination you can have IMO. With factory pcm having no safety's I would not run a maf in a high hp boosted setup. Every MAF I have seen fail has made the car go lean, the last thing I want under alot of boost. If dead set on maf then the 411 swap would be well worth the 1/2 a day it would take to re-pin the harness to swap it over IMO.
Youre pointing out all the reasons I'm doing it. Everyone hates a MAF, everyone says the 98 is a bastard. Has anyone calculated how much power my cast bottomend ls6 with a 98 computer is making to max out airflow and frequency on an LS7 maf in a 4 inch tube on 93 gas? I like doing things that most don't realize can be done. It's fun 😊.
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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 03:13 PM
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🤣🤣Na just seeing what's possible and messing around....have another build thread coming soon on here.
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I get it. I have two chevelle station wagons and an ecotec I think I’m gonna make 6-700hp with.
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I get it. I have two chevelle station wagons and an ecotec I think I’m gonna make 6-700hp with.
Haha true enough. How's that Dyno rebuild going?
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im balancing 3 pretty in-depth projects at the moment (and a 50-60hour/wk job), i almost finished the billet impeller, just need to open up the seat for the seal i goofed the first time and made it a few thou too small. my bug showed up with a blown out clutch slave so i had to replace that before getting back on the dyno. now all my ecotec parts are showing up and my green wagon is almost running again. i got the haltech booted up last weekend to check out the wiring, now im recovering all the heat shrink and need to do a few other minor things before getting a driveshaft on order. so the bug is mobile under its own power and once the green wagon is in the same condition ill be back hard on the dyno. hows that for a long answer to a short question.
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Sounds like a lot going on. Stay safe in the hurricane 🌀.
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thanks, you too. says its going to drive right over the top of my house tomorrow. yay.
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