Help burning wires
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So I have the tune files but I can't seem to open them, I guess because I don't have an app that supports it. If I post them will it show his information or am I safe to post?
I dunno if its the tune or not but plenty of guys have run that CX setup and had issues burning plug wires and its easy to see why with the arrangement of that hotside.
That hotside immediately made me a fan of factory manifolds.
If you can move the coils under the manifold and run wires up, that would be ideal.
Otherwise, ceramic wires, lots of heat shielding and cross your fingers.
That hotside immediately made me a fan of factory manifolds.
If you can move the coils under the manifold and run wires up, that would be ideal.
Otherwise, ceramic wires, lots of heat shielding and cross your fingers.
You can download it for free but have to pay for a license to make any changes.
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I dunno if its the tune or not but plenty of guys have run that CX setup and had issues burning plug wires and its easy to see why with the arrangement of that hotside.
That hotside immediately made me a fan of factory manifolds.
If you can move the coils under the manifold and run wires up, that would be ideal.
Otherwise, ceramic wires, lots of heat shielding and cross your fingers.
That hotside immediately made me a fan of factory manifolds.
If you can move the coils under the manifold and run wires up, that would be ideal.
Otherwise, ceramic wires, lots of heat shielding and cross your fingers.
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Not only a bad tube layout but.....
What if those 2 holes didn't have the intersecting tube opening in them?
1 time in many yrs with the GN's, I found a log style tubular manifold that had virtually no intersecting opening.
That cyl was super hot. The tube glowed bright red in just a few seconds under boost.
That cyl was virtually plugged, and several others were way less than a match for the intersecting pipe.
What if those 2 holes didn't have the intersecting tube opening in them?
1 time in many yrs with the GN's, I found a log style tubular manifold that had virtually no intersecting opening.
That cyl was super hot. The tube glowed bright red in just a few seconds under boost.
That cyl was virtually plugged, and several others were way less than a match for the intersecting pipe.
I was looking at maybe getting the hooker manifolds and then I'd just have to find a place to weld In the wastegate. Was you able to open the files? Some how both my post turned into this topic, didn't mean for that to happen so I'll continue writing on this one. I had wrapped the **** out of the manifolds and had the covers on the wires
I would work on plug routing and shielding before making any major changes provided there isn't something glaringly wrong with the tune.
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how do I get ahold of him, I have no problem sending my ecu off for a tune
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Verdad Gallardo Here's his email, give him a shout.
He has tuned all my turbo cars and they've always made excellent power and lasted longer than I would have expected, especially the SBE stuff.
You don't send your ECU, he does it via email back and forth until you're happy.
He tunes via several different platforms, HPT, Holley, EFI Live, etc.
Patrick Guerra
patrick.guerragroup@gmail.com
Tell him Verne sent you.
He has tuned all my turbo cars and they've always made excellent power and lasted longer than I would have expected, especially the SBE stuff.
You don't send your ECU, he does it via email back and forth until you're happy.
He tunes via several different platforms, HPT, Holley, EFI Live, etc.
Patrick Guerra
patrick.guerragroup@gmail.com
Tell him Verne sent you.
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Here's his email, give him a shout.
He has tuned all my turbo cars and they've always made excellent power and lasted longer than I would have expected, especially the SBE stuff.
You don't send your ECU, he does it via email back and forth until you're happy.
He tunes via several different platforms, HPT, Holley, EFI Live, etc.
Patrick Guerra
patrick.guerragroup@gmail.com
Tell him Verne sent you.
He has tuned all my turbo cars and they've always made excellent power and lasted longer than I would have expected, especially the SBE stuff.
You don't send your ECU, he does it via email back and forth until you're happy.
He tunes via several different platforms, HPT, Holley, EFI Live, etc.
Patrick Guerra
patrick.guerragroup@gmail.com
Tell him Verne sent you.
Downloading HP Tuners is free, just go to their website, you'll have to pay for a license and then buy the cable to connect to the truck.
With those items you can datalog and tune which is very helpful.
There is a myriad of videos on YouTube by ChopperDoc that can help you setup HP Tuners datalogging as well as all the great folks on here.
I datalog almost every time I go out unless I intend on easy cruising leaving the compressor off.
What you will do is scan the truck while driving or making a pull, send the scan to Pat, he makes adjustments and sends you a tune, you upload and repeat.
When you're happy, your done.
I went back and forth with Pat for almost a year because I broke some stuff while tuning and he waited until I fixed it and we picked it up again.
Can't speak highly enough about him.
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Correct, if you have a laptop already then, you're halfway there.
Downloading HP Tuners is free, just go to their website, you'll have to pay for a license and then buy the cable to connect to the truck.
With those items you can datalog and tune which is very helpful.
There is a myriad of videos on YouTube by ChopperDoc that can help you setup HP Tuners datalogging as well as all the great folks on here.
I datalog almost every time I go out unless I intend on easy cruising leaving the compressor off.
What you will do is scan the truck while driving or making a pull, send the scan to Pat, he makes adjustments and sends you a tune, you upload and repeat.
When you're happy, your done.
I went back and forth with Pat for almost a year because I broke some stuff while tuning and he waited until I fixed it and we picked it up again.
Can't speak highly enough about him.
Downloading HP Tuners is free, just go to their website, you'll have to pay for a license and then buy the cable to connect to the truck.
With those items you can datalog and tune which is very helpful.
There is a myriad of videos on YouTube by ChopperDoc that can help you setup HP Tuners datalogging as well as all the great folks on here.
I datalog almost every time I go out unless I intend on easy cruising leaving the compressor off.
What you will do is scan the truck while driving or making a pull, send the scan to Pat, he makes adjustments and sends you a tune, you upload and repeat.
When you're happy, your done.
I went back and forth with Pat for almost a year because I broke some stuff while tuning and he waited until I fixed it and we picked it up again.
Can't speak highly enough about him.
I ended up going with the BR7EF which is supposed to be the replacement for it, I guess?
Additionally, I was told it might be too cold for a street use plug, but they seem to work just fine in my car gapped at .022 or .024, I can't remember lol.
I tried find the TR7 my last go around and I don't think they make them anymore.
I ended up going with the BR7EF which is supposed to be the replacement for it, I guess?
Additionally, I was told it might be too cold for a street use plug, but they seem to work just fine in my car gapped at .022 or .024, I can't remember lol.
I ended up going with the BR7EF which is supposed to be the replacement for it, I guess?
Additionally, I was told it might be too cold for a street use plug, but they seem to work just fine in my car gapped at .022 or .024, I can't remember lol.
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I tried find the TR7 my last go around and I don't think they make them anymore.
I ended up going with the BR7EF which is supposed to be the replacement for it, I guess?
Additionally, I was told it might be too cold for a street use plug, but they seem to work just fine in my car gapped at .022 or .024, I can't remember lol.
I ended up going with the BR7EF which is supposed to be the replacement for it, I guess?
Additionally, I was told it might be too cold for a street use plug, but they seem to work just fine in my car gapped at .022 or .024, I can't remember lol.
Out of boost timing should be in the low 20s under load and high 20's unloaded. Wanna say factory maps were around 28* peak when cruising. Which I always thought was conservative. But you aren't gonna hurt anything on e85 there. I like to run around 20* at 5psi and under then ramp up to around 15* by 15lbs. I doubt a new tune would help. If he's a reputable tuner its far from rocket science. Something is very wrong if you have air gap all around a wrapped manifold and boot, and its still burning through.
Might turn the lights off, press the brakes hard and load up the turbo. See if the 2 runners (or any) glow bright orange.
I’ve never heard of a plug cracking from heat alone. If he’s detonating the crap out of it, maybe… but I’d guess they are man handling the plug at install due to awkward angles and hard to access plugs. Also inspect the plugs really well before install. I’ve seen a lot of new plugs cracked.
Might turn the lights off, press the brakes hard and load up the turbo. See if the 2 runners (or any) glow bright orange.
I’ve never heard of a plug cracking from heat alone. If he’s detonating the crap out of it, maybe… but I’d guess they are man handling the plug at install due to awkward angles and hard to access plugs. Also inspect the plugs really well before install. I’ve seen a lot of new plugs cracked.