Help burning wires
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Help burning wires So as I've previously posted in some other threads so I won't go into major detail on that but I put a cx racing kit on my silverado. I dropped it off a few weeks ago to get tuned and my tuner has called me telling me it's repeatedly burning the spark plug wires and even cracking the spark plugs. He's telling me this is caused by the manifolds getting to hot and that the manifolds that came with this kit won't work that I need to changed them out. Frustrating because he recommended this kit to me and now I've invested a pretty good bit of money into this truck and don't know what to do. Basically paying him for something he couldn't complete but we won't get into that. What can I do to solve this problem and does this sound right to you guys? I'm lost n frustrated with this
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Maybe a pic or two to help with what he's saying??
What kit is it? With the cast or tube headers?
Heat sleeves on any wires/plugs?
Is this happening only under hi boost?
If it's getting that "hot", I'd be looking at the tune before I condemned the manifolds.
Cracking plugs?? I've been around the block for MANY yrs...Haven't heard that.
What kit is it? With the cast or tube headers?
Heat sleeves on any wires/plugs?
Is this happening only under hi boost?
If it's getting that "hot", I'd be looking at the tune before I condemned the manifolds.
Cracking plugs?? I've been around the block for MANY yrs...Haven't heard that.
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Maybe a pic or two to help with what he's saying??
What kit is it? With the cast or tube headers?
Heat sleeves on any wires/plugs?
Is this happening only under hi boost?
If it's getting that "hot", I'd be looking at the tune before I condemned the manifolds.
Cracking plugs?? I've been around the block for MANY yrs...Haven't heard that.
What kit is it? With the cast or tube headers?
Heat sleeves on any wires/plugs?
Is this happening only under hi boost?
If it's getting that "hot", I'd be looking at the tune before I condemned the manifolds.
Cracking plugs?? I've been around the block for MANY yrs...Haven't heard that.
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If it’s getting as hot as he claims it would absolutely annihilate those coolant and AC lines long before the porcelain of the plug cracked.
It sounds to me like he’s got the timing crazy retarded or running it super rich and everything is nuclear. I will say that kit would probably be served by a coil pack relocate and some good plugs with 90 degree boots.
It sounds to me like he’s got the timing crazy retarded or running it super rich and everything is nuclear. I will say that kit would probably be served by a coil pack relocate and some good plugs with 90 degree boots.
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If it’s getting as hot as he claims it would absolutely annihilate those coolant and AC lines long before the porcelain of the plug cracked.
It sounds to me like he’s got the timing crazy retarded or running it super rich and everything is nuclear. I will say that kit would probably be served by a coil pack relocate and some good plugs with 90 degree boots.
It sounds to me like he’s got the timing crazy retarded or running it super rich and everything is nuclear. I will say that kit would probably be served by a coil pack relocate and some good plugs with 90 degree boots.
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Severe…as in SEVERE detonation will crack porcelain on plugs. But it seems your tuner would see that happening. I’ve seen it do this and it was so bad that it melted holes in the piston tops. I wonder if your tuner has turned off your KS?
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I would think he would see that in the tune also. Apparently as soon as it builds boost the wires melt and plugs crack. He claims it's the manifold. What is ks?
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KS = knock sensors.
if it’s detonating hard enough to break plugs on E85 it’s probably blown up anyways, so we’ll just keep moving.
If I were you I’d get the thing back and do a coil relocate and make some plug wires for it. I use the accel ones with the ceramic boots that everyone hates, but they’ve always worked good for me.
I also completely question your tuners ability to make something forced induction run after reading your threads. But that’s between you and him.
if it’s detonating hard enough to break plugs on E85 it’s probably blown up anyways, so we’ll just keep moving.
If I were you I’d get the thing back and do a coil relocate and make some plug wires for it. I use the accel ones with the ceramic boots that everyone hates, but they’ve always worked good for me.
I also completely question your tuners ability to make something forced induction run after reading your threads. But that’s between you and him.
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KS = knock sensors.
if it’s detonating hard enough to break plugs on E85 it’s probably blown up anyways, so we’ll just keep moving.
If I were you I’d get the thing back and do a coil relocate and make some plug wires for it. I use the accel ones with the ceramic boots that everyone hates, but they’ve always worked good for me.
I also completely question your tuners ability to make something forced induction run after reading your threads. But that’s between you and him.
if it’s detonating hard enough to break plugs on E85 it’s probably blown up anyways, so we’ll just keep moving.
If I were you I’d get the thing back and do a coil relocate and make some plug wires for it. I use the accel ones with the ceramic boots that everyone hates, but they’ve always worked good for me.
I also completely question your tuners ability to make something forced induction run after reading your threads. But that’s between you and him.
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It is fairly common to keep the timing low on the initial pulls, but the timing can't be so low that it starts to cause issues. This is why it is also useful to have even one EGT probe at the turbine inlet to monitor the EGTs.
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There is no way to answer this question without knowing more details, and even then I can only give approximate numbers.
It is fairly common to keep the timing low on the initial pulls, but the timing can't be so low that it starts to cause issues. This is why it is also useful to have even one EGT probe at the turbine inlet to monitor the EGTs.
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It is fairly common to keep the timing low on the initial pulls, but the timing can't be so low that it starts to cause issues. This is why it is also useful to have even one EGT probe at the turbine inlet to monitor the EGTs.
Andrew
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