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Old Sep 11, 2024 | 04:05 PM
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I was down in the 9-10 in/hg vacuum range when mine stopped working.
After I replaced the valve springs it came back up into the 12-13 in/hg vacuum range which is where it was before when my booster was working.
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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 04:27 AM
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When I had 4th gens I never had a hard brake pedal, maybe also ask in another forum on here?
It's kind of funny, this is the third time I've had a hard pedal. The first time was 10+ years ago when I was still na, but then it was just a bad booster. The second time was before took it to the tuner the most recent time. It came back fine, but unfortunately my tuner passed at the beginning of 2023 so I can't ask him what he did about it... Which forum do you think I should post in? I've been a member for a while but luckily I've been able to solve any issues I've up until now by searching through old posts.
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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 04:30 AM
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I was down in the 9-10 in/hg vacuum range when mine stopped working.
After I replaced the valve springs it came back up into the 12-13 in/hg vacuum range which is where it was before when my booster was working.
I'll get a gauge on it this afternoon to see how much vacuum I actually have. Based on what you said, 12+ in/hg should be enough that the brake booster should work properly? It has enough vacuum to operate the bov's normally.
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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Y2K_Frenzy
How about buying a smoke tester? Smoke machine $80
Have you used that exact one before?
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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by moisbest42
I'll get a gauge on it this afternoon to see how much vacuum I actually have. Based on what you said, 12+ in/hg should be enough that the brake booster should work properly? It has enough vacuum to operate the bov's normally.
It did for me, I know plenty of guys running big cams in their LS cars who still use the factory booster.
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I got the car to idle more normal than it was before, but the pedal is still a rock. I gave it a few revs once it warm to clear it out and this is what the driver manifold looked like after i managed to get a picture of it. Clearly something somewhere isn't right. It must be lean to run hot enough to make the manifold glow red. The number one cylinder runner was so hot my temp gun just says over temp when i check it.
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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 07:01 PM
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vacuum is about 7 in/hg
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Old Sep 12, 2024 | 07:37 PM
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Timing is way too late and fuel is burning on its way through the header. or it's super lean fuel mixture.
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Timing is way too late and fuel is burning on its way through the header. or it's super lean fuel mixture.
I believe it's lean, that would support my vacuum leak idea. Unmetered air getting in leaning out the mixture.
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I'd recalibrate you're AFR sensor just to make sure your AFR readings are accurate.
Double check your tune, get a scan if possible and post it here.
I've seen boosters leak and cause a hard pedal as well as a vaccum leak.
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That large of a vacuum leak should be easy to find. What head bolts/studs are you using? I've seen the top row of head bolts interfere with the intake surface, not allowing the intake to seat properly.
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Old Sep 13, 2024 | 11:59 PM
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I bet if you log your idle, you will find timing at 0* or less. I would also guess that you will find a bad reading from at least 1 sensor, and odds are it will be the IAT sensor. I have doubts about a lean condition having anything to do with this.
edit-- Or your reluctor wheel broke loose and it will require a timing light to verify actual timing.
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Old Sep 14, 2024 | 01:40 PM
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Betting on this also , late timing leads to low vac , poor / incomplete burn leads to unused O2 which the sensor picks up as lean , definitely leads to high exhaust Temps. Aftermarket crank ? Could be an inaccurately mounted reluctor wheel ?
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Originally Posted by sewerpickle
That large of a vacuum leak should be easy to find. What head bolts/studs are you using? I've seen the top row of head bolts interfere with the intake surface, not allowing the intake to seat properly.
Arp studs. I'll pull the intake again to make sure. But if it was leaking like that you'd think I could find it with ether when I checked it
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Originally Posted by gametech
I bet if you log your idle, you will find timing at 0* or less. I would also guess that you will find a bad reading from at least 1 sensor, and odds are it will be the IAT sensor. I have doubts about a lean condition having anything to do with this.
edit-- Or your reluctor wheel broke loose and it will require a timing light to verify actual timing.
I'll try to log it this afternoon. Why do you suspect the iat is faulty? I'll also see if I can get a timing light on it, but there's no pointer to help verify timing. If it's timing related could it be a bad crank position sensor?

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Old Sep 17, 2024 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The ******
I'd recalibrate you're AFR sensor just to make sure your AFR readings are accurate.
Double check your tune, get a scan if possible and post it here.
I've seen boosters leak and cause a hard pedal as well as a vaccum leak.
I've resorted to just plugging the port on the intake for the booster to eliminate that possibility, that's when I checked and found only 7 in/hg. I'm not sure how the tune could be off now after running fine before though?
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I would run a tighter gap than that.
I verified the gap this weekend, it's .020
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Old Sep 17, 2024 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gametech
I bet if you log your idle, you will find timing at 0* or less. I would also guess that you will find a bad reading from at least 1 sensor, and odds are it will be the IAT sensor. I have doubts about a lean condition having anything to do with this.
edit-- Or your reluctor wheel broke loose and it will require a timing light to verify actual timing.
I have sat and thought about this for several minutes now. What you said made a lot of pieces fall into place. When my car blew up it lifted a head, which torched the head and the deck. I suspected it was due to detonation because the ecu didn't pull any timing when the iat's rose quickly during a highway pull. My tuner told me right after he finished my car, before it blew up, that the iat sensor was slow. So now I'm wondering if it was bad/going bad when it lifted the head.
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Originally Posted by gametech
I bet if you log your idle, you will find timing at 0* or less. I would also guess that you will find a bad reading from at least 1 sensor, and odds are it will be the IAT sensor. I have doubts about a lean condition having anything to do with this.
edit-- Or your reluctor wheel broke loose and it will require a timing light to verify actual timing.
Idle is at approx 16°

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Old Sep 18, 2024 | 03:54 AM
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Something I noticed as well when I was logging yesterday, commanded idle is 1150 and actual idle is 850. Not sure if that is of any use to anyone.
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