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Is it normal for a shop to have a release of liability?
I am having this shop install a new chevy performance ls3 with magnuson tvs2650, and using remote coil packs. Is this normal to get a liability release?
Would be interesting to see the form he is being asked to sign. Hopefully I am not misreading this and have missed it. Some pictures of what the shop is describing might be helpful also.
Lawyers....Lawyers.....Lawyers......Lawyers.....
I cant believe all shops don't make people sign stuff like this....
1. You blow your engine up from who knows what..... unlikely but still much more likely than blowing up a stock engine..... your gonna be looking at the shop for HELP....
2. Ive seen problems with remote mounted coils in odd situations and its not fun.... but the majority of the time it works fine... Im guessing they had one bite them pretty good...
3. You go out a kill yourself or someone with your 800HP car and the faimly wants a piece of everyone involved.....
Lawyers....Lawyers.....Lawyers......Lawyers.....
I cant believe all shops don't make people sign stuff like this....
1. You blow your engine up from who knows what..... unlikely but still much more likely than blowing up a stock engine..... your gonna be looking at the shop for HELP....
2. Ive seen problems with remote mounted coils in odd situations and its not fun.... but the majority of the time it works fine... Im guessing they had one bite them pretty good...
3. You go out a kill yourself or someone with your 800HP car and the faimly wants a piece of everyone involved.....
Also, what makes you not want to sign it?
I agree with this man.
I would have no problem signing the paper. Also, a good lawyer would make that paper worthless if something bad actually happened.
Also, a good lawyer would make that paper worthless if something bad actually happened.
Exactly, but it would at least show the shop had concern. And might help the customer make better decisions lol.
I had a 72 trans am with around 600hp and the rest of the car was completely stock... lap belts, brakes, suspension.... it was like riding a bull naked every time you got into boost, so sketchy and fun... but very irresponsible lol
That is a very poorly worded release but 99% of shops have a liability waiver that is required to be signed and things could be notated on it if we see something that we don't like or something that just needs to be mentioned. Usually it goes along with the work estimate to be signed so it's an all in one type thing. Hell we have one even if we aren't doing anything to the vehicle and it's just going on the dyno for a few rips.
Called a chiropractor and they won't even see you without having a signed hold harmless agreement. Professional liability? WTF is that these days!
Hi there I'm a professional and am licensed to practice but in an effort to protect myself from any liability or wrongdoings please sign this CMA document.
After that kevin hart crash in 2019 made the news, people were making a big deal about having essentially a hellcat engine in a 1970 plymouth with no modern safety features. Not surprising shops are worried about potential liability. My thoughts are if you don't want to sign a waiver, do the work yourself. However, any liability releases should be handled before the first wrench is turned or dollar exchanged.
Called a chiropractor and they won't even see you without having a signed hold harmless agreement. Professional liability? WTF is that these days!
Hi there I'm a professional and am licensed to practice but in an effort to protect myself from any liability or wrongdoings please sign this CMA document.
Total BS!
Can you blame them though? People are so ignorant and sue happy trying to get money out of everybody for anything they can.
someone trying to sue a grocery store cause they slipped on some ice in there lot... its like b*tch its winter and you knew it was icy out and nobody made you step there so watch where the $%#@ you are walking!
Or at my repair shop people will come back days later saying their car is overheating or something unrelated and" it wasn't like that before" and I'm like listen dude you came in here wanting just your tires balanced and that's all we did...
Lawyers looking to get.
Cant blame a shop for trying to protect themselves however that is poorly written. Why? It gets straight to the highlighted points. It should be on a formal invoice/estimate.
BIG RED FLAG I didn't notice first time around editing for grammar before posting is THE BIG RED FLAG LURKING
Point 3 on the list. Who T F are you to tell me get a cage as part of a service agreement?!?!?!?!?
Whos coils are you installing? Im so curious now?
I dont know how big more prestigious shops operate any longer other than certain clientele do business with certain business for such reasons. Their both on the same page. They accept liability equally.
Needless to say the chiropractor didn't get my business and they're still in business. I own a land surveying company so would it be any different if I had all my potential clients signing a hold harmless agreement before I engaged in surveying their boundaries and marking the location of their newly designed home that has to be placed precisely on the property so that it doesn't encroach over an easement or building setback line?
Having a hold harmless agreement signed doesn't necessarily mean that you cannot be held liable in a court either.
Getting screwed over is a two way street!
Last edited by 01CamaroSSTx; Mar 29, 2025 at 12:23 PM.
Because I already had multiple arguments with the shop manager to get them to even do this work. Then he disrespected me when i was at their shop. And they have raised rates on my 3 times. Just in general that they act like im way out in left field when im doing very standard stuff. So I am irritated with them in general and therefore dont want to sign it on principle. Nothing is free, this waiver was not brought up before the work. If they want me to sign it then I want them to give me something, discounted hourly rate.
Needless to say the chiropractor didn't get my business and they're still in business. I own a land surveying company so would it be any different if I had all my potential clients signing a hold harmless agreement before I engaged in surveying their boundaries and marking the location of their newly designed home that has to be placed precisely on the property so that it doesn't encroach over an easement or building setback line?
Having a hold harmless agreement signed doesn't necessarily mean that you cannot be held liable in a court either.
Getting screwed over is a two way street!
You are right. It is exactly the same. Any reputable shop will be able to control how a customer drives/maintains their vehicle once it leaves their shop.
I get your point! My clients don't drive away with my work they just depend on it to be done correctly and if I fail in performing my duties there's consequences. Nobody to put the blame on here but ourselves and if there is a suit for gross negligence my deductible is 10K.
My warranty is my guarantee that the firm did its due diligence and confirmed our work to ensure that what we are certifying to or putting on the ground is done correctly. That's how you minimize the chances of getting sued.
If I owned a shop, I would for sure make this a practice. Especially if you are a shop that installs customer supplied parts and entertains all the customers near ideas that ends up causing problems. Most of your successful shops only install parts/packages they have tested and proven to work. This is how they keep cars coming in and going out on schedule with minimal downtime or issues. Social media has warped folks minds into thinking 1000whp is so easy and reliable. Just shop around and find the cheapest parts available, then take it to the local corner shop. No big deal, simple as a routine oil change.
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Is it normal for a shop to have a release of liability? 
