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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The ******
I'm running a factory block, crank and heads so it's basically stock.
mine is stock too then!
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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
FWIW and from what I've read and heard on his videos... its a 427" not a 400" built by Maschmeier Performance Engines. No reason not to go to 427 bore when you put those sleeves in I can think of. I wonder what a sleeve setup like that costs vs an aftermarket LSX block. Is it more? or less? Hell of an accomplishment either way... Did they say if he was on a nitro mix that pass?
He dynoed with a mix of nitro with the big block combo and it picked up tons of power at low boost with only small percentages of nitro. He never made a pass with nitro.

Texas speed is going to be about the cheapest option. They sell a resleeved gen 4 block for just under $5100. They sell the dart aluminum block for just over $7100. At that point another 2g for 6 bolts per cylinder and an overall stronger block seems like a small price to pay. The iron dart block is $4200 so cheaper than a sleeved block if you don't mind the weight.

I really don't know how much of an advantage a sleeved block is over a stock sleeve lc9 as far as strength. Obviously going to need to run a lot more boost with the 5.3 vs the 427 which could be an issue in itself with 4 bolts per cylinder. I'd guess most of those guys are hooped and dry decked with 1/2" head studs.
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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 05:40 PM
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The advantage is the bigger bore you can run, and then you can get into better heads.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
The advantage is the bigger bore you can run, and then you can get into better heads.
That is obvious. At some point strength of the block becomes the limiting factor. Same reason why all the big power turbo guys prefer an lc9 over an ls3 block. The larger bore of the ls3 block is an advantage up to a point and gives a little more low rpm torque for a heavy street car, but at higher power levels the lc9 is an advantage due to being a stronger block.

I was speaking only in terms of strength of the block. Purely for strength I'm not sure a 427 is a stronger block than a stock bore 5.3. Especially considering he is using stock main caps that are not pinned.

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Old Oct 10, 2025 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
The advantage is the bigger bore you can run, and then you can get into better heads.
You know after all these years and seeing how fast some have went on dare I say small valve (2.08 and smaller) with the outdated cathedral port design should make you at least pause and think. Think that a 400/415 SBC "race" heads from say AFR use a 2.10/2.12 valve.

Kenny D went 3's on big bore out of box BR1 which is 2.08 and well Capizzi going low 4's on a 799 casting is bonkers. I really want to see Kenny's car get back to the track with the CID (LS7) castings even though he went up in CI this time around. Is he going to dip into the 3's on less effort and will he go further.
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Old Oct 10, 2025 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by The ******
At what power level was that happening?
I've got a rod/piston LS1 making about 900whp so this makes me curious.
901whp lol. Being you are turbo vs something like a belt driven charger is to your benefit as to not put any additional loading on the lower end. I'd say you are there though as that is pretty stout. I'm sure some have pushed further but I'd bet longevity was not something they were concerned with.
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Capizzi could stick his notch into the 3s but having the time is the issue for him. He has gotten the car out a few times this season making changes, gearing for example.

For me these are all different records, sleeved vs non sleeved. And they all count.
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Originally Posted by The ******
At what power level was that happening?
I've got a rod/piston LS1 making about 900whp so this makes me curious.
around 1200
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Let's not forget Beater has had this LS combo maybe a month now. He has done a couple events with the first being the RWD vs AWD backside deal. He tested for that then went out I think first round there. Then he went to a prepped track and broke the record. He doesn't have anything completely dialed in especially with lots of potential left in converter changes. I think he is going to be going faster real soon or break LOL.

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When we were chatting over FB he told me he'd go for the 3's. His best bet locally is to run at Flying H.
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He likes to troll but he is a good guy. If he put his mind to it and focused only on radial prepped racing he could really lower that stock block record.

Most people focus on one type of racing with a car but guys like beater and Ryan Mitchell doing no prep front side, back side, and radial all with the same car really have to know their **** to change the car for each type of racing.
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He tried to lower the record, got the BB back out, but broke something in the trans, didn't have high gear. I think he's going to try again before the tracks close. He raced at Flying H.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
He tried to lower the record, got the BB back out, but broke something in the trans, didn't have high gear. I think he's going to try again before the tracks close. He raced at Flying H.
he had his fastest 330’ with the LS before the trans broke. He was well on his way to a 3 second pass. That’s all part of it he’s having the trans rebuilt right now.
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