need turbo help please
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need turbo help please well i have a qmp kit,and for a while i was just running off the gate no controller,and i had boost loss at 4k it would drop from like 5.5 psi to 2.5,then i put the e-boost on and now it drops from 7 to 6 or so after 4k,now the weird thing is that when i open the cutout it drops from 7 psi to about 3 and it does it quite quickly now,and i have messed with the boost controller too maybe its not hooked up right,but im not sure and im starting to get a little aggitated,any help would be great,im sure the maker of this kit wont tell me much because i may be the only one with the problem,and i will most likely be to blame,but hey if you want any help would be great,oh btw its a completly stock motor,thanx in advance
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i hear noyzee garage is good but they cant seem to get any of there cars out of the hole,and then just convince there customers to go the bottle route
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Originally Posted by Transdamit
im sure the maker of this kit wont tell me much because i may be the only one with the problem,and i will most likely be to blame
But you are right about one thing, if you have boost drop with our kit and a stock engine, then you likely are to blame. And since you are unsure as to whether or not you have the E-Boost hooked up correctly, I would start there. Very detailed instructions come with the E-Boost (they even have pictures). Read them and hook it up EXACTLY THE WAY IT TELLS YOU. Then YOU will know it's hooked up correctly.
I'm getting really tired of you attacking me here with "negative insinuations". They don't go unoticed by me, or others as I'm sure you are aware. In fact, I let your comment in another one of your threads about me go (you called it a "Disaster Mile Performance kit"). Aside from driving up to your place and fixing it for you, I've done about all I can do, though I am available for that, as well as weddings, barmitzvah's (sp?), excorcisms, etc.
Thank you.
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well when i call you you never call me back and every time i ask you a question you just blame it one me,and i appologized ONCE because it was a misunderstanding,and if you read it right you would see that even with the e boost not hooked up it bleeds off,and you didnt spend that much time at all with me in fact you say it like you shouldnt have to ,i spend 7 grand and dont see it for almost a year hear every excuse then have a lot of trouble with it,bov that i paid to replace myself,boost drop,header leaks,pieces not fitting,then i say somthing to you about them, and it is just, well its me this, and me that,well ill tell ya what, the kit is installed right, the e-boost is hooked up right, and it has been improved on ,and it is still dropping, myself along with a lot of other people have no answers,i guess neither do you, other than saying its my fault,so i guess since it must be me,i will sell it and upon the signature of the new person it will instantly work, if it doesnt than we can rule that out huh,i just get upset because i stand behind all my work and i never jerk around a customer because thats how my buisness grows,but i must be doing somthing wrong,so arguing aside can anyone please help i am at the end of the rope here in this problem,and cant seem to figure it out ,or does anyone know of where i could take it to have it ironed out,thanx and sorry for the hostillity
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Dude, you have issues. (and that was the longest sentence I have ever read)
I have talked to you for HOURS on the phone, and not once or twice, but countless times! And you are right again, I DON'T OWE YOU THAT just because you bought a turbo kit. I have TRIED to help you, but I cannot go over every possible scenario and fix it for you from 800 miles away! And the bottom line is, I didn't even get paid to install your kit! And at some point, I have to draw the line on free phone tech installation/tuning advice. I sold you a kit that YOU said you were capable of installing! Apparently it's not installed (or tuned) right. Which is why shortly after, we no longer offered them in "kit form", but only as installed, tuned systems by us.
This reminds me of someone else who also said our kit was installed right and tuned right, but couldn't make the power and also had boost drop issues. But when someone else bought it and installed it themselves correctly, and I tuned it, everything worked out PERFECTLY. So exactly how is that?? Just coincidence??
It's always going to be my fault no matter how many times I publicly prove the kit works. And I really shouldn't even care since we don't sell the Single Systems anymore, but I do care. This is just the same old bullshit.
I have talked to you for HOURS on the phone, and not once or twice, but countless times! And you are right again, I DON'T OWE YOU THAT just because you bought a turbo kit. I have TRIED to help you, but I cannot go over every possible scenario and fix it for you from 800 miles away! And the bottom line is, I didn't even get paid to install your kit! And at some point, I have to draw the line on free phone tech installation/tuning advice. I sold you a kit that YOU said you were capable of installing! Apparently it's not installed (or tuned) right. Which is why shortly after, we no longer offered them in "kit form", but only as installed, tuned systems by us.
This reminds me of someone else who also said our kit was installed right and tuned right, but couldn't make the power and also had boost drop issues. But when someone else bought it and installed it themselves correctly, and I tuned it, everything worked out PERFECTLY. So exactly how is that?? Just coincidence??
It's always going to be my fault no matter how many times I publicly prove the kit works. And I really shouldn't even care since we don't sell the Single Systems anymore, but I do care. This is just the same old bullshit.
I know for sure this kit works and works very WELL. My buddy Kaos works ******* flawless and makes disgusting power. Daniel installed it himself and took his time installing it.Rob tuned it and IT makes NASTY power just like all the other kits Rob has installed and tuned.
My buddy bought warbirds old kit and made more power on a stock engine than warbird did on his stroker engine. The most important Factor is that ROB tuned my buddies. I find it odd that all the people who have this kit claim they know how to tune and claim they have it installed right don't make the power they should but When Rob tunes it, it makes awesome power.
Nothing more needs to be said the people who have had robs kit and don't make the power they should have no idea what they are doing and need to sit the Ls1 edit down and walk away and let Rob do it.
Rob Raymer knows what he is doing. I have seen it with my own eyes how good this guy is and how awesome his kit works.
I will have one of his TT kits in the future, you can count on that.
My buddy bought warbirds old kit and made more power on a stock engine than warbird did on his stroker engine. The most important Factor is that ROB tuned my buddies. I find it odd that all the people who have this kit claim they know how to tune and claim they have it installed right don't make the power they should but When Rob tunes it, it makes awesome power.
Nothing more needs to be said the people who have had robs kit and don't make the power they should have no idea what they are doing and need to sit the Ls1 edit down and walk away and let Rob do it.
Rob Raymer knows what he is doing. I have seen it with my own eyes how good this guy is and how awesome his kit works.
I will have one of his TT kits in the future, you can count on that.
This reminds me of someone else who also said our kit was installed right and tuned right, but couldn't make the power and also had boost drop issues. But when someone else bought it and installed it themselves correctly, and I tuned it, everything worked out PERFECTLY. So exactly how is that?? Just coincidence??
Transdamit.... sorry for your troubles.. though I have seen them before... and have see people go through the same stuff. Are you runnning the 63mm? Either way check your back pressure before the turbo.... and then move the wastegate to right after the passenger side manifold for best results with a kit design such as that.
If you want to "fix" all your issues... then replace the log manifold.
Goodluck man,
-Jarrod
I was there when Kaos's car was dynoed and tuned by rob. Nothing special about the dyno rob uses nor no tricks if thats what you are impying. You can just type comments all you want but I know all of you guys who doubt Rob and his kit are just fucktards. I know the Kit works really ******* well and my buddies car is living proof.
I pity you Rice Etr, really I do.
I pity you Rice Etr, really I do.
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Originally Posted by RICE ETR
stock engine, in which the QMP kit works well on, vs. a built engine... in which it doesn't.. can't compare them hence why you went from a mean built engine(didn't make anymore power with) to a stock one with a LS1 intake??? and other stock stuff along with some dyno magic. So what's the real reason behind the parting out of the bird?
Transdamit.... sorry for your troubles.. though I have seen them before... and have see people go through the same stuff. Are you runnning the 63mm? Either way check your back pressure before the turbo.... and then move the wastegate to right after the passenger side manifold for best results with a kit design such as that.
If you want to "fix" all your issues... then replace the log manifold.
Goodluck man,
-Jarrod
Transdamit.... sorry for your troubles.. though I have seen them before... and have see people go through the same stuff. Are you runnning the 63mm? Either way check your back pressure before the turbo.... and then move the wastegate to right after the passenger side manifold for best results with a kit design such as that.
If you want to "fix" all your issues... then replace the log manifold.
Goodluck man,
-Jarrod
If you knew anything RICE PETER, you would know that the reason I didn't make more power with a built engine, is because THE TURBO won't make anymore power. A T76 is only good for 900-950fwhp. I made 792rwhp. Get out a calculator and do the math.
Warbird's ci had nothing to do with why he only made the power he did. What sense would that make? Because you are then saying that if he had just used a stock cube motor (instead of his 400+ci ARE motor), then he would have made another 200+RWHP over what he was able to make???? Yea...that's logical.
So what's your excuse for why MM's car didn't make the HP on HIS small cube engine with the same kit?? You can't have it both ways chief. So which is it?
And as far as it being magic numbers from "MY DYNO"...wrong again. The dyno is owned by Clemons Racing, they dyno Nascar, Busch, and Winston Cup cars (as well as race in the Arca Class). It's maintained by them on THEIR PROPERTY. But I have a key and exclusive use, since I pay for half of the lease on the dyno. So try again.
I could spend all night disproving all the claims you have made over the last year. But why bother. I just wish you would stop telling people to move the Wastegate to a position that will hurt their engine. Statements like that remove any doubt that you are anything more than a moron.
Oh yea, how much rwhp does your "non-log design turbo kit" make again?
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Originally Posted by 2000 ws6
I was there when Kaos's car was dynoed and tuned by rob. Nothing special about the dyno rob uses nor no tricks if thats what you are impying. You can just type comments all you want but I know all of you guys who doubt Rob and his kit are just fucktards. I know the Kit works really ******* well and my buddies car is living proof.
I pity you Rice Etr, really I do.
I pity you Rice Etr, really I do.
02blueFirehawk will be getting his trans soon. I know and ur bro MM cant wait for the him
(I always wondered why you and MM went after Rob. Didnt know you guys are friends and live close to each other. Explains ALOT over the years. 
) Last edited by LINGENFELTER SS; Aug 5, 2004 at 12:57 AM.
is it possible for you to pressure test the discharge side? i'm sure you have gone over the connections and the intercooler before but if this is your last try it would be worth doublechecking it all for leaks etc. it may also be worth a shot buying a wastegate spring you know the pressure of just so you can rule a bad spring out.
while you have it apart you can make sure the valve and diaphragm are fine.
i would also call turbosmart or email david mariott there, they can make sure that you have the best configuration for your symptoms.. after that
while you have it apart you can make sure the valve and diaphragm are fine.
i would also call turbosmart or email david mariott there, they can make sure that you have the best configuration for your symptoms.. after that
Originally Posted by Transdamit
i will sell it