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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 01:40 AM
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Ugly welds, but I bet that thing is a whole bunch of fun.
And that is all that really counts in my book.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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Looks good but I am curious about a couple of things

1) You could have used a stock intermediate or aftermarket 3 inch intermediate pipe over the axle. Is there a reason why you decided to go under the axle?

2) On the intake side you can remove the upper PHR and run the 3inch intake over the axle as well. This would free up a lot of room under the car. Was there a reason why this wasn't done or were there space constraints?

Finally how much boost are you seeing from the kit now and how much are you planning to run when finished tuning/fuel etc?

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Sharp and I admire your fabbing skilz.

Of course I would prefer to see it all go over the rear axle.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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Looks good!! Get some numbers on that thing asap.

Just a thought, but if you unload the rear tires, ie(jack up the frame), does the rear end sit on the in/ex piping? I would cut at least a small section of the intake tube and use silicone couplers and clamps so you could remove it if needed to clear the rear, gas tank, ect.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Thanks for the comments. The welds do kind of suck, the local exhaust shop lost their expert welder (19yo kid) and the guy that does the welding isn't quite as good but got the job done. I wend uner the axle for a few reasons. 1) I had true duals that ran under the axles with no problems what so ever. 2) The 4in pipe would not fit over and I went with 4in pipe because I plan to run 20+lb's of boost hopefully anyway so the larger diameter pipe will help keep the exhaust pressure down somewhat at the higher boost levels ( I could be totally wrong about this but sounds good lol). Super Daves Z: You make a good point, I had my dual setup to where I could disconnect the pipes before the rearend. Like I said I still have a bunch of loose ends to tie up and this is one of them.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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sweet pics man!

If you decide to produce more kits....let me know.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Sly,

I deffinatly understand how this stuff works with diy'er. Get everything worked out, make another kit and possilbly make some money back on it. I think you would have plenty of interested buyers.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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Only problem I have is that STS has a patent on their setup. I would have to read the fine print as to what the patent consists of as far as selling a kit.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Fab the pipes only. It's not exactly like theirs. I'm pretty sure they can't patent the location.
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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This is true. However bringing it up the front like I did required some cutting. I was going to bring it up the side similar to the STS but wanted to hide the pipe under the airbox

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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Ah they have a patent.

Where did you get your idea from?
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by slyws6
Only problem I have is that STS has a patent on their setup. I would have to read the fine print as to what the patent consists of as far as selling a kit.

-Sly
Here's a link to the actual patent if you wanna read it.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...8&RS=6,745,568
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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You could copy the STS setup down to every nut, bolt, fitting, etc and they could not get you for patent infrigement. As with most patents they have to be left vague as to not give away details.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Hmmm I'd have to talk to a lawyer I suppose just to get it affirmed, that patent seemed pretty detailed to me, I didn't read over the whole thing just skimmed it.

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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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well if you want to make me a kit i'll leep it hush hush
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Old Aug 17, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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lol actually I'm thinking about it, offering a couple of kits both over and under the axle with many options. Probly be available in the october time frame.

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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Other than the the turbo being mounted back were the muffler is located (remember not all cars have the muffler in the same location). The patent could be describing any system were the turbo is not mounted in the engine compartment and do not allow gravity drain. The incon setup with oil return pump fits that bill along with quite a few other setups (not ls1 based).

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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I bet STS wouldn't even care if someone made a few kits to fund their own projects. If you were mass producing they might.
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Sly if you do make a kit what would be inclued and cost send me a pm orsomething
Thanks
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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I'm building the same type of kit. I'm ready to start the oil feed/return system and I have a couple of questions.
1. How is the Mocal working for you?
2. What type of return line are you using (size/type/where to buy)?

Hope it's working out for you. It looks nice!
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