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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:19 AM
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Ive decided that somewhere down the road I'll be doing forced induction. I was looking at some smaller things that I could do in the meantime that would give me some nice gains. I was thinking that I could do a cam as a next upgrade. Ive done a bit of reading and I am interested in the GT2-3 cam. From what Ive dug up it seems to average 370hp on bolt on cars. My question is, since if I do forced induction it'll most likely be a turbo would this cam compliment a turbo? (from what ive read, yes ) Would it compliment an STS style turbo setup? (This was brought up in another thread but I didnt see a definitive answer) Another question is, if I do an STS style turbo setup, would headers be necessary and if not how much gain would i see with the GT2-3 with stock exhaust manifolds?

Is there a different cam that would suit me better without having to rebuy things later on down the road?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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There are a lot of cam that would do the trick. The GT2-3 is the cam that LPE used in the stock cube 550rwhp cars. I see a lot of people running the TR 224 on a 114. I am going to use my 228 114 with my turbo.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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ive been looking at the tr224 cam also. from what i read its a great cam (becoming mild from some of the cams u guys are running) and it'll put me around the 390 hp area if im not mistaken while still passing emissions. but i thought this was a cam for a NA setup. would this cam be good for an sts styled turbo?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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Working on buying the Procharger by the first of the year and also wondering what cam would benefit a FI ls1 (stock motor). Putting in Cam and TC first. Would like to know as well.. TTT for ya.
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I would put use a cam that has alittle more intake duration than exhaust for turbo. I would also keep it on a 116LSA for less over lap. That way you can get away with more duration and avoid the over lap. The Cam I run in my STS car is a 230/226 .590/.590 116LSA. I can also get you the sister version to that which would be our 226/220 on a 116LSA. Both work great so far on our turbo cars/trucks.

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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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3 questions for ya.
1) what kind of numbers do you put down with those cams alone?
2) what kind of numbers do you put down with the cams and the sts?
3) any of those cams pass emissions?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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I've heard that you want to go longer on the intake side and to keep the LSA at 114 or higher.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Eight Ball WS6
I've heard that you want to go longer on the intake side and to keep the LSA at 114 or higher.
So, i guess we should put something like the 2 cams mentioned by hawk then. Im sure it would be better then the stock cam anyways. Wonder how much HP we will gain with just a blower cam until the actual blower is put on. Anyone?

I intend on slapping on the procharger and cranking the boost up... When it blows it blows! Time for a forged 383 or someting.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by waterbug1999
I intend on slapping on the procharger and cranking the boost up... When it blows it blows! Time for a forged 383 or someting.


I wish I had the resources to warrant an attitude like that!!
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:33 AM
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I do. I was kinda hoping the motor would pop today. But them i rememberd about my $2300 heads. I would like the motor to go boom but just not take out a head.
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Originally Posted by Eight Ball WS6


I wish I had the resources to warrant an attitude like that!!
It will be sitting for the winter so i wont be able to blow it up till next year.. Buy then i should have enough money saved for a short block and have the procharger sitting in the garage.
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I donthave any numbers from the cams yet because I am not a big believer in Dynos. But I can say that my car used to have an ASA hotcam, long tubes, gears, and a bunch of other bolt ons.....And after putting my manifolds, cats and that turbo cam in, it felt just as fast and sometimes even faster. The car had more torque because of the usable cylinder pressure. The problem with radical cams is cylinder pressure. Unless you add compression, they are not as effective. So I stuck this cam in to try it before the turbo and I loved it. No lope at idle which I was tired of, with tuning, 42 lb injectors, it passed with flying colors on a dyno smog. So that should say something about a simple cam design.

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Originally Posted by hawk179
I donthave any numbers from the cams yet because I am not a big believer in Dynos. But I can say that my car used to have an ASA hotcam, long tubes, gears, and a bunch of other bolt ons.....And after putting my manifolds, cats and that turbo cam in, it felt just as fast and sometimes even faster. The car had more torque because of the usable cylinder pressure. The problem with radical cams is cylinder pressure. Unless you add compression, they are not as effective. So I stuck this cam in to try it before the turbo and I loved it. No lope at idle which I was tired of, with tuning, 42 lb injectors, it passed with flying colors on a dyno smog. So that should say something about a simple cam design.

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So what would be the best cam in a stock motor for a blower set up? Im sure it would be better then the stock one right?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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I agree 100 % with hawk...
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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There is no such cam that is the best. If there was everyone would run that cam with the blower. I just did the math on my cam and it cam out to 0 overlap. I did not even get negitive just straight 0. I would say this is a realy good cam for a blower no blow by.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by goober35
There is no such cam that is the best. If there was everyone would run that cam with the blower. I just did the math on my cam and it cam out to 0 overlap. I did not even get negitive just straight 0. I would say this is a realy good cam for a blower no blow by.
which is better, negative or positive?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:48 PM
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Well with positive overlap (both vavles open at the same time) you will get blow by. I am just really getting into this, but this is what i have read
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apparently its got to be a 114-116. But 230/226 or 228/228 or 224/224 or 226/220 or visa versa. Or will any of the above specs work?
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Originally Posted by waterbug1999
apparently its got to be a 114-116. But 230/226 or 228/228 or 224/224 or 226/220 or visa versa. Or will any of the above specs work?
I'm gonna be using 222/218 on a 114...
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I have found a way to figure how to get 0 overlap. If you want give me the a pramater so of a cam. like 220-230. I can give you a cam spec on 0 or in the negitives.
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