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sts size hey guys, i am new to the forum. i've been here before because i love the ws6 but unfortunatley can't afford one. right now i have a 240sx project and a 
saturn.
i posted here cause you guys have the most sts info on the forums i've seen.
i want to do a remote mount setup for a 240sx. but i don't know what turbo to use.
i saw that the sts system comes with a t04 60 trim. but that is for your gigantic 5.7 liter engine. what size turbo can/should i use for my little 2.4 liter engine? i know i am not gonna have as much gas flowing so i dont think it will spool as fast. and i won't have to have as many cfm as you guys would. i want full boost at 3k.
and to all you haters out there, don't waste your time with this thread. sts is awesome.
saturn.i posted here cause you guys have the most sts info on the forums i've seen.
i want to do a remote mount setup for a 240sx. but i don't know what turbo to use.
i saw that the sts system comes with a t04 60 trim. but that is for your gigantic 5.7 liter engine. what size turbo can/should i use for my little 2.4 liter engine? i know i am not gonna have as much gas flowing so i dont think it will spool as fast. and i won't have to have as many cfm as you guys would. i want full boost at 3k.
and to all you haters out there, don't waste your time with this thread. sts is awesome.
Originally Posted by boostinsidewayz
i sent an e-mail, still waiting for a response. i don't think they are giving out info for the kit yet, since it's not finished, thanks tho.
are you planning on putting a turbo on the stock KA motor? for the money your going to spend why not buy an sr20det motor(cheaper). then if your still not happy you can take off the stock det turbo sell it and get a bigger one. my friend has a 240 with a stock det swap and he runs high 13's spinning through 1st and 2nd also on small rims and tires. check out 240sxforum.com theres a lot of good info there.
You may look into a GT-28 or a 35-55.
Thanks Dave (Quicksilverado). I would be glad to help on anyway I can.
240sx.org is also a good source of info.
The kit for the Civic/Integra in not released yet, but should be fairly soon.
Thanks Dave (Quicksilverado). I would be glad to help on anyway I can.
240sx.org is also a good source of info.
The kit for the Civic/Integra in not released yet, but should be fairly soon.
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Why do you want to put a remote turbo on your 240SX?
Do you know why they started the whole remote turbo thing? LACK OF SPACE. When a good turbo kit for an LS1 costs 5K+ because of all the crap you have to move and all the custom stuff required it fiscally makes sense to toss the turbo in the back. You can buy a rev hard manifold for your car for under 400 bucks. On a car like that you will spend more money for a system that is going to be laggier than a front mounted system. Same goes for a Civic, when turbo manifolds are readily available for under 400 dollars I see no reason to run an STS kit.
Do you know why they started the whole remote turbo thing? LACK OF SPACE. When a good turbo kit for an LS1 costs 5K+ because of all the crap you have to move and all the custom stuff required it fiscally makes sense to toss the turbo in the back. You can buy a rev hard manifold for your car for under 400 bucks. On a car like that you will spend more money for a system that is going to be laggier than a front mounted system. Same goes for a Civic, when turbo manifolds are readily available for under 400 dollars I see no reason to run an STS kit.
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2000LS1M6~ yes i am gonna turbo the ka, i don't want a sr swap. this is such a debated topic. i prefer the ka, 2.4 liters versus 2.0. (since this is a ls1 forum i can say this) there is no replacement for displacement! and if you look at the forums and look at the cost total for a lot of sr swaps, it's alot more then 4 grand. and it takes most a long time to complete it. i am frequently on 5 240sx forums, but i figured i'd get a better response here since a lot of people use this kit. the 240sx people arn't helpful cause they think it has "too much lag" or "will be a waste"
trtturbo~ thanks for the help, i sent you an e-mail already tho.
eviltwins~ thanks for the info, but i really don't care why they started. i had the idea to do it on my saturn before i saw that there was a kit already. why does it matter to you why i want to do it? it's something i've always been interested in and i want to try it. and btw, fiscally it's cheaper to do a remote mount on a 240sx as well. you need a little more then a manifold for a turbo, incase you didn't know.
trtturbo~ thanks for the help, i sent you an e-mail already tho.
eviltwins~ thanks for the info, but i really don't care why they started. i had the idea to do it on my saturn before i saw that there was a kit already. why does it matter to you why i want to do it? it's something i've always been interested in and i want to try it. and btw, fiscally it's cheaper to do a remote mount on a 240sx as well. you need a little more then a manifold for a turbo, incase you didn't know.
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Verdad Gallardo you are absolutly right, There is no replacement for displacement. but also people run 11's on the 2.0L. im not hating on you in any way. i've just been around det's now for like 3 years. i prefer a det over the stock KA. i almost was going to do a det swap in my se-r, but changed my mind and am going put the money in my T/A. my buddys with 240's and se-r's do the swaps them selves. they buy like 10 motors at a time. i could of had an entire det swap in my se-r for a lil over 1500 complete. but anyway by to the topic, i think its a good little project your getting into, i hope it all works out well. keep me up to date with how it goes
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GT3071R is probably your best bet. This turbo has made some good power on high powered hondas. They are ball bearing so you'll have to do some water lines, the spool up will be worth it though. I can get you amazing deals on these turbos. If you want more power, the GT35R is your next step up. These turbos have made over 450rwhp on rotaries. These are also ball bearings.
If you're set on a non-ball bearing turbo, I'd go with either a GT32, or GT35 depending on how much hp you want. Again, I can get you amazing deals on these as well
If you're set on a non-ball bearing turbo, I'd go with either a GT32, or GT35 depending on how much hp you want. Again, I can get you amazing deals on these as well
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Originally Posted by boostinsidewayz
eviltwins~ thanks for the info, but i really don't care why they started. i had the idea to do it on my saturn before i saw that there was a kit already. why does it matter to you why i want to do it? it's something i've always been interested in and i want to try it. and btw, fiscally it's cheaper to do a remote mount on a 240sx as well. you need a little more then a manifold for a turbo, incase you didn't know.
Lets compare them, shall we.
STS: additional piping from motor to turbo, additional piping back from turbo to motor, expensive scavenge pump to take oil from turbo to motor.
Conventional: Reliable cast manifold, short charge piping, bolt up to stock cat location, NO expensive fluid pump, NO masses of piping going to back of the car, less lag
I just built a turbo setup for a friends 240SX using the RH manifold, a T67, 3.5" downpipe, big AA intercooler, and all 3 inch charge piping, the ENTIRE THING cost 2700 bucks, top to bottom, sans engine management. If you think you can do it cheaper than that using a remote mount setup, you're wrong. The rev hard manifold we picked up for 375. To get the same results out of the rear mount kit you need all that extra piping, a brace to mount the turbo to, a 300+ dollar fluid pump, and then the cost of the charge piping to get the air back up to the front of the car.
Hey, if you want to spend more money for a system with more lag, go ahead, be my guest. What do I know anyways
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go no bigger than a GT30R if you want to see spool up before 4K. the turbo is good for around 500bhp, although some of the EVO guys have seen 600 from them! they are good though and will run at 2.0bar all day long. ball bearings are def the way to go.
if you want more then i would fit a larger cold housing on and leave the hot allown (as long as you have one of the bigger once on). there are people with 2.0 ltr evos running the GT35 cold side on a GT30 hot. works well on 2.0ltrs, but may be a bit restictive on . 2.4.
if you want anymore then just run a GT35R (thats with the ball bearings) and stand back as the turbo will amke a easy 5-600 bhp. just make sure you engine can take it!
thanks Chris.
if you want more then i would fit a larger cold housing on and leave the hot allown (as long as you have one of the bigger once on). there are people with 2.0 ltr evos running the GT35 cold side on a GT30 hot. works well on 2.0ltrs, but may be a bit restictive on . 2.4.
if you want anymore then just run a GT35R (thats with the ball bearings) and stand back as the turbo will amke a easy 5-600 bhp. just make sure you engine can take it!
thanks Chris.