head/cam swap OR supercharger???
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head/cam swap OR supercharger??? well im looking and im split between two setups, it all depends on power and engine life, what do yall think?
internal:224 cam Thunder racing with new ported heads and perfect tune
Supercharger: split between procharger or Vortech around 7-9 pds of boost
I know the head and cam setup will be cheaper and give me about 375rwhp and ive already got all the good bolt ons...not sure how much rwhp the supercharger will give me, ive heard 40 percent of stock power?
CONCLUSION:which is easier on the engine(lookin for 100,000 miles...i also realize about cam maintence)and how much more will the supercharger give me compared to head and cam???
internal:224 cam Thunder racing with new ported heads and perfect tune
Supercharger: split between procharger or Vortech around 7-9 pds of boost
I know the head and cam setup will be cheaper and give me about 375rwhp and ive already got all the good bolt ons...not sure how much rwhp the supercharger will give me, ive heard 40 percent of stock power?
CONCLUSION:which is easier on the engine(lookin for 100,000 miles...i also realize about cam maintence)and how much more will the supercharger give me compared to head and cam???
Procharger over heads and cam anyday anytime if money isnt an issue with u. If u got bored swap a good SC cam and u will make another 50rwhp and still keep good idle and drivability. Good luck.
Originally Posted by SLP/Drew
how much are prochargers with installlation and comp tuning, also whats the max boost with 10.1 compression, and what other engine support mods would you need with procharger specifically
It will run u between $5000 to $6000 with the fuel pump, injectors, installation and tune. U can run anywhere between 7-12psi. Bob at EPP is running 15psi on his stock 128K miles engine with no problems. It all depends on the tune. U will need a intank fuel pump and injectors. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by SLP/Drew
not sure how much rwhp the supercharger will give me, ive heard 40 percent of stock power?
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Originally Posted by mr. peepers
If you already have most of the good bolt ons, I wouldnt trust the 40% claims, simply because you do not have a stock powered vehicle.
I'm not sure which is easier on the engine... I know if you stay out of boost then I'd say the blower but if you buy a blower what are the chances??? I ended up going H/C only because it seemed like I'd learn a ton buy doing it myself and it seemed a bit cheaper up front. I also had LS1 Edit and knew I could probably get a good tune on an NA car but a blower would be beyond my grasp (I never even changed a spark plug until I bought the WS6 though)
I would think you would be making roughly the same amount of power after either one. I would guess somewhere in the 400-430 range if you already have some bolt-ons.
All I know is that I ran a Vortech blown C5 at the track last summer and even with my shitty home-made tune I had him until the last 10 feet of the track where we ened up within .03 seconds of each other. Seems like you would expect traps in the 116-123 range depending on if you did a cam with the blower etc.
I went H/C and figured if I wanted more I'd go N20... That's why I did the TSP 231/237. I really can't go blower at this point without changing the heads and the cam. If you go blower first you can always add cam, heads or N20 on top of it later.
something to think about...
I would think you would be making roughly the same amount of power after either one. I would guess somewhere in the 400-430 range if you already have some bolt-ons.
All I know is that I ran a Vortech blown C5 at the track last summer and even with my shitty home-made tune I had him until the last 10 feet of the track where we ened up within .03 seconds of each other. Seems like you would expect traps in the 116-123 range depending on if you did a cam with the blower etc.
I went H/C and figured if I wanted more I'd go N20... That's why I did the TSP 231/237. I really can't go blower at this point without changing the heads and the cam. If you go blower first you can always add cam, heads or N20 on top of it later.
something to think about...
Originally Posted by Johnny5
I would think you would be making roughly the same amount of power after either one. I would guess somewhere in the 400-430 range if you already have some bolt-ons.
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Would you guys expect to have to replace the stock 10-bolt rear after adding a S/C to a mostly stock '00 LS1? Wouldn't the extra 100 or so horses put extra strain on the clutch & rearend? I'm also weighing the H/C vs. S/C for a mostly daily driver M6.
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Would you guys expect to have to replace the stock 10-bolt rear after adding a S/C to a mostly stock '00 LS1? Wouldn't the extra 100 or so horses put extra strain on the clutch & rearend? I'm also weighing the H/C vs. S/C for a mostly daily driver M6.
If u want to drag race with sticky tires, a bolt ons LS1 will need a good clutch and rear end let alone H/C or BOOSTED LS1. I broke two SPEC clutches before the SC and the Mcloed is slipping after the SC. I also changed to a 8.8 rear end because the 10 bolt took a detour before the SC lol.
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all u biased s/c nutt huggers make me laught 375- 430 rwhp for a good heads cam swap on a ls1??lol hpe makes 430 rwhp in with just their cam in a ls1 and it aint no solid roller or anything either..... u morons......dont waiste ur money on a blower especially with stock internals.....blower only ls1s with stock internals make mayby 430 to the wheels as a most BRO and the h/c is cheaper then a blower. 
if your staying with a stock bottom end go with a good heads/cam package that will get you around 450rwhp like the afr 205s and a g5x3 cam.
Last edited by 30th t/a; Feb 21, 2005 at 10:53 AM.
Originally Posted by CAMAROonROIDS
all u biased s/c nutt huggers make me laught 375- 430 rwhp for a good heads cam swap on a ls1??lol hpe makes 430 rwhp in with just their cam in a ls1 and it aint no solid roller or anything either..... u morons......dont waiste ur money on a blower especially with stock internals.....blower only ls1s with stock internals make mayby 430 to the wheels as a most BRO and the h/c is cheaper then a blower.
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Originally Posted by LSs1Power
Who told u blowers can only make 430rwhp with stock internals? U are the moron, moron. Dont be calling people morons because u disagree with them and from what you are saying you dont have a clue about anything. Im making 550rwhp with stock internals..... Show me a heads/cam car that makes 550rwhp daily driver on pump gas. 430rwhp with a cam only huh... How does the car idle or how about the surge at low speeds. I bet its fun driving it everyday. Yeah go bang your head more maybe some sense will come back to it. Just enjoy what u have and give your opinion without calling people names.
hahaha and yes surr 430 rwhp with cam only street car man i had the cam in my car its done by hpe and it idles fine and drives fine dummy o and let me know how long that motor lasts pushing 550 rwhp on a blower with stock internals
