Ok, so heres the deal...

I still have quite a few bolt ons left to go (pulleys, thermo, longtube headers, ported TB, True Dual Exhuast, SSRA, etc) all of which will be done within the next couple of months.

After which is when I seriously wanna start building up my motor. The goal is to have either a supercharger or twin turbo setup (not sure which I want yet). I will also be spraying BIG shots as well.

When I do build up my motor, Im going to do heads, cam, LSx intake, LSx TB, ported MAF as well as upgrading the internals to be to handle a big boost and a big shot of nitrous. Basically, the engine is gonna be setup for FI, BUT BEFORE I do any FI I do want a strong *** N/A engine. Basically I want AT LEAST 400rwhp before I do FI.

I was originally gonna go with TSPs Magic Stik cam (237/242 on a 113LSA) but after reading up on some threads regarding turbos, Ive rethought the choice of cam.

Heres where the problem lies...I dunno if I need or even want an 800+hp when Im all said and done with this. I want a car thats still VERY streetable (something I can enjoy while just cruising), but that can still smoke Vipers, C6 Z06s, etc... So im thinking maybe 550-650HP is more for me. If thats the case would going with a supercharger be better? If I do go supercharger route would the Magic Stik be ok to use? What would be a good cam to use on a supercharger like the vortech V-9, but that would still be able ot produce GOBS of HP while the motor is still N/A (Baiscally, I wont be doin FI for a year or so after I upgrade the motor)?

And how streetable can a Twin Turbo (or single BIG *** turbo) setup be when compared to a supercharger like the vortech? Whats a good cam to use if TT is ure ultimate goal, but still want a ton of power from ure cam while being N/A?

And what about heads? Whats are soem good heads that work well with FI and N/A? Heads that would compliment a cam like the magic stik? heads that would compliment a setup for SC, but still do well in a N/A application? Heads that would compliment a setup for Turbo/TT, but still do well in a N/A application?

 

Before you start buying anything, you need to decide which direction you want to go in. You have to figure out what you want out of the car. If all you are looking for is 500rwhp, I would suggest heads/cam and nitrous (much cheaper alternative). However, if you have money to spend... a few mods and a small turbo set up would get you there. I would definately suggest making a decision first because some of the things you want don't exactly go together. If you are going to do a turbo car, you might want to consider a lower compression build up. That cam probably wouldn't be your best bet. I'd say something with a larger LSA, little overlap... you don't need alot of duration. If you want to go with a big nitrous motor, then you will end up going in the exact opposite direction. However, you will be well beyond your goals and remember, the more extreme you go the less streetable the car becomes! If you just want to beat a few Vipers, slap on some heads and a nice cam and call it a day. You don't want to do things twice or end up doing things that you won't need... or things that might even hurt you more than help. The ported MAF/TB is a good idea in one direction but not in the other... it would be pointless to buy headers now if you plan on going turbo... and so forth...So, back to the original question. What do you really want from your car and how much are you wanting to spend?

 

I guess what I want is 550-650rwhp BEFORE nitrous. I want this power to be as streetable as possible. I also want the engine to be able to hold a 150-300 shot of nitrous on top.

Yeah, thats it...I want soemthing big and mean for the street (BIG 500+ HP), and something wilder for the occasional trip to the strip (nitrous).

 

That much power then the Suspension,Drivetrain, and brakes should be completed first as well as a roll cage. And as Zangel stated pic a direction and head that way. N/A motors do not make good F/I motors.

 

Im starting to get the feeling that Bolt ons, heads, cam, an intercooled SC and a tune would get me right around where I wanna be in terms of power for the street.

So now lets talk about a H/C set up that would compliment a SC setup, but still generate a good amount of power without a SC.

 

The suspension, drivetrain and brakes are all things I will be workin on in between now and when I do my motor.

 

Heads are just going to make your system more effecient. Get you some nice stage III LQ9 (6.0 liter) heads with a mild cam and put a S/C on it. Unless you wanna change cams as I did then buy the S/C cam now. It will not be no N/A monster cam but will do until you get the S/C. 224/228 .580 ish lift on a 115lsa....middle of the road will work good in both cases.

 

Actually, I was gonna ask u about a 224/228 on a 114LSA...what differance would the 114 make vrs 115 on both N/A and SC apps?

 

hey redrumss,

Ok the cam Ive began to seriously consider now is the Futral Motorsports custom grind 224/230 .588/.595 114LSA cam.

So now lets talk heads...I was considering now something like AFRs' Mongoose 205cc and the 225cc heads. My setup N/A would be:

SSRA, MTI air lid, ported MAF ends, LT headers, true dual exhaust, LSx TB and Intake (havent decided on whether to get the 78mm or 90mm) and the FM 7 cam noted above. Eventually, the induction of course is gonna be changed to a intercooled SC, so which heads (the 205s or 225s) would best suit both the N/A and SC application better?

Im thinkin that N/A the AFR Mongoose 205cc would be better, but get the feeling that once SC'd and especially when I begin sprayin, that the 225cc would be the better choice. But i dunno

 

205's would be fine on a stock cube engine. That cam would be fine as well for what you are going to do.