Bolt ons to complement STS turbo
Bolt ons to complement STS turbo Trying to build the utlimate reliable Show car Street Car. I just bought a 35th ann SS, 6 speed with under 10K miles. Shes a beaut! My 3rd LS1. Ive gone the Heads/Cam/Forged Bottom end way before.
This time i will be getting the Turbo first, i would like the 5lb kit with intercooler. I would like to add all the bolt ons to it that would be beneficial. Do i need a lid? i saw on the STS sight the car had a lid? didnt make much sense.
I was thinking: MTI ported billet TB, Smooth bellows, Polished stock Maf, Kooks Headers ( loved my last set ) Ypipe with cats, Turbo for Catback obviously. Tuned, all the fuel system upgrades, strong clutch and a 12 bolt.
Ive got a basically brand new bottom end. In the future, i will build up a new LS2 block, but for now, i think i would aslo like to add a small Cam. Remember, this is a show car/ cruising car. Maybe see the track a few times a year. I dont go out looking for street races anymore but hardly let down if one finds me
If the headers are un necessary, would an aftermarket Ypipe be beneficial? Im not going to be doing all of this over night. It will take a year to get her all together.
Thanks
Scoobs
This time i will be getting the Turbo first, i would like the 5lb kit with intercooler. I would like to add all the bolt ons to it that would be beneficial. Do i need a lid? i saw on the STS sight the car had a lid? didnt make much sense.
I was thinking: MTI ported billet TB, Smooth bellows, Polished stock Maf, Kooks Headers ( loved my last set ) Ypipe with cats, Turbo for Catback obviously. Tuned, all the fuel system upgrades, strong clutch and a 12 bolt.
Ive got a basically brand new bottom end. In the future, i will build up a new LS2 block, but for now, i think i would aslo like to add a small Cam. Remember, this is a show car/ cruising car. Maybe see the track a few times a year. I dont go out looking for street races anymore but hardly let down if one finds me
If the headers are un necessary, would an aftermarket Ypipe be beneficial? Im not going to be doing all of this over night. It will take a year to get her all together.
Thanks
Scoobs
Launching!
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From: Birmingham, Al
The stock exhaust will work fine. If you want headers and y-pipe go ahead. It want hurt. If you are planning on future upgrades. Go ahead and upgrade the turbo and fuel system. That way you can grow into it. Go ahead and get the dial boost also. I would then get an intercooler or meth. I preffer the intercooler. Make sure you build that trans and rear. You will cook both of them if you dont. That is if its an auto. I wouldn't change the gears though. Turbo will work better with a higher gear. Oh yea. The lid on the car is not needed.
Upgrade the fuel system right away then get a custom grind cam for whatever your application is and work on getting an intercooler and raising your boost levels. The stock exhaust is fine but I'm not sure if LT's will help or not.
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You can't run a lid or a smooth bellows.. 
Headers would be mainly for show as the power increase on a low HP application would be negligible. Also make that if you do use headers that there are ZERO leaks. That's why most people stick with stock exhaust stuff. No leaks.
Peronally I'd spend the extra money on a fuel system and intercooler. If you have money to spare have your exhaust system coated this a thermal barrier.
Headers would be mainly for show as the power increase on a low HP application would be negligible. Also make that if you do use headers that there are ZERO leaks. That's why most people stick with stock exhaust stuff. No leaks.
Peronally I'd spend the extra money on a fuel system and intercooler. If you have money to spare have your exhaust system coated this a thermal barrier.
well i wasnt sure about the smooth bellow as i have yet to see a good underhood picture of the system. The pictures on the STS website show a lid, therefore i assumed a MAF and a bellow. I couldnt understand it myself. So, does the plumbing attach directly to the Maf? I need a good photo. Ok, LT's will be down the line, this is not ALL about the power but the sound and the look as well.
Fuel system upgrades to me are essential as well as the intercooler. I am not a budget build up kind of guy. I get the best thats out there for what i need. However, i do not want to build a new bottom end, so 5 lbs is fine for me. Looking for any bolt ons, cam, recomendations to get a bit more power without adding more stress to the bottom end. Thanks for all input
Scoobs
Fuel system upgrades to me are essential as well as the intercooler. I am not a budget build up kind of guy. I get the best thats out there for what i need. However, i do not want to build a new bottom end, so 5 lbs is fine for me. Looking for any bolt ons, cam, recomendations to get a bit more power without adding more stress to the bottom end. Thanks for all input
Scoobs
Oh, also, the Single exit exhaust tip is kinda fugly.... Has anyone custom fabbed up a dual same side outlet, similar to say the SLP 2OTL exhaust? or mabye even added say a good set of Tips, like the Corsa ones. Need the bling factor too.
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From: Sacramento, CA
You can see here how my MAF is connected. When my kit was stock the MAF was on the left side of the motor but after the intercooler I had to switch it around. The F-body kits mount them in a different spot but still not right to the TB.
In this pic you can see the 2 different colored pipes. Where the 2 join is where my MAF would be on a stock kit.
So as you can see you can change the MAF location but you must tune for that and NOT change it's location AFTER the tune.
In this pic you can see the 2 different colored pipes. Where the 2 join is where my MAF would be on a stock kit.
So as you can see you can change the MAF location but you must tune for that and NOT change it's location AFTER the tune.
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Since you are not wanting something crazy, here are some ideas.
LS6 cam; little more cam, but smooth and reliable. You can always go with a little more cam, but it depends on what you want.
LS6 springs, better springs for cheap if you dont have alot of cam.
42lb injectors; makes the kit safer and you will always plenty of fuel & they are cheap
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STS kit with blow off valve
Good tune is a must
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I would just maybe port your stock manifolds a little and have them coated. It will look good and hold some heat in.
If it were me, I wouldnt do the 12 bolt for just 5 pounds. Its been a year and I am still on the stock rear end as well as clutch and I use my car to give rides in.
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Since you are not wanting something crazy, here are some ideas.
LS6 cam; little more cam, but smooth and reliable. You can always go with a little more cam, but it depends on what you want.
LS6 springs, better springs for cheap if you dont have alot of cam.
42lb injectors; makes the kit safer and you will always plenty of fuel & they are cheap
FMIC
STS kit with blow off valve
Good tune is a must
Walbro 255lph intank pump
I would just maybe port your stock manifolds a little and have them coated. It will look good and hold some heat in.
If it were me, I wouldnt do the 12 bolt for just 5 pounds. Its been a year and I am still on the stock rear end as well as clutch and I use my car to give rides in.
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
can i ask why you have your eyes set on an sts? just curious since you said this is not being built to fit a budget and you want the best.
STS kits are for budget minded people who don't want to thrash in their engine bay. Nothing drops more jaws at car shows than a big pair of twins under the hood.
Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
can i ask why you have your eyes set on an sts? just curious since you said this is not being built to fit a budget and you want the best.
On The Tree
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From: Salt Lake City
Rick's 1,000 horsepower TA is using stock manifolds, this will be THE STS car above all others. We just got the Iron manifolds HPC coated black. Go with the GT67 upgrade for sure. The stock pipes work really well.
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On The Tree
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We also can get the exhaust housing on the turbo HPC coated too so you can display the STS kit at shows. If you want the attention at a car show a rear mount turbo totally freaks peope out.
Last edited by bradyb; Mar 21, 2005 at 12:32 PM.
