Phamspeeds's new kit - is it worth the $$$?
Phamspeeds's new kit-is it worth the $$$ This company is advertising a turbo kit w/o an intercooler for $2650.00. Let me know whether this is worth purchasing. Also, I'm a newbie when it comes to forced induction. What in the hell is an intercooler and should I purchase the kit and also get an intercooler.
Here is the thread for Phamspeed's new turbo.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/removed-locked-thread-graveyard/294444-introducing-our-new-budget-turbo-kit.html
Thanks and I appreciate your responses!
Here is the thread for Phamspeed's new turbo.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/removed-locked-thread-graveyard/294444-introducing-our-new-budget-turbo-kit.html
Thanks and I appreciate your responses!
You have to look at your power goals and long term goals and what all you want to do with your car........ there is alot to research before you JUMP into it........ fuel issues tuning those are just other little things that can make you or break you if its not done right. That kits uses stock manifolds and no Intercooler.......
a Intercooler is what cools the intake charge before it goes into the motor. There are two types..... air to air were air cools the charge and air to water were colder water cools the charge...... if you are wanting to run over 5 psi of boost you NEED a Intercooler. It looks like if you are asking these questions then you have ALOT of searching and reading to do on this subject...........
Kyle
a Intercooler is what cools the intake charge before it goes into the motor. There are two types..... air to air were air cools the charge and air to water were colder water cools the charge...... if you are wanting to run over 5 psi of boost you NEED a Intercooler. It looks like if you are asking these questions then you have ALOT of searching and reading to do on this subject...........
Kyle
Yeah you need to do alot of research before turbo charging your car. But you ask if the kit is worth it hell yeah it is. With thier nonintercooled kit I would say run 5psi upgrade your fuel system maybe 42#er's and a intank fuel pump car tuned by someone you make a easy 425-450rwhp.
Originally Posted by 2000silverbullet
Not to beat a dead horse > but if you just jump into it like I did > you will kill your motor. I did it with 10lbs of boost and it took about 10 seconds to do it.
no way id ever run 10psi on a stock motor. 6psi is safe and bullet, did you have it tuned?
kcfan, you dont NEED an intercooler, but it helps. also with the phamspeed kit, it you get a FMIC you need to be able to fab up your own piping or find someone to do it for you. Don't know why they don't want to make a FMIC kit, thats really the last factor in getting the expensive kit from them, i need to call Speed Inc and ask them to ballpark a figure for FMIC piping. I'd also have speed do the tuning.
kcfan, you dont NEED an intercooler, but it helps. also with the phamspeed kit, it you get a FMIC you need to be able to fab up your own piping or find someone to do it for you. Don't know why they don't want to make a FMIC kit, thats really the last factor in getting the expensive kit from them, i need to call Speed Inc and ask them to ballpark a figure for FMIC piping. I'd also have speed do the tuning.
I did pretty much everything wrong!!! I had a stock fuel system (other than inline fuel pump) and just bought a SDCE 8 rib kit for my blower and was not sure how much boost I was going to make. I thought I'd make around 8 PSI > but hit 10 one time and it was over from there. My motor is currently under constuction to include a new fuel system and I should see around 550 RWHP when it is all done. This time I have done some reading and will be lowering CR and getting a very good fuel system.
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first i'd do some research. if then you still want the kit...then get it. I think its a great deal. 2600 plus 3-400 for an alky kit...thats 480-500rw with a good tune. Or you can save that 3-400 and just run 110 unleaded and boost 10psi.
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Originally Posted by 2000silverbullet
I did pretty much everything wrong!!! I had a stock fuel system (other than inline fuel pump) and just bought a SDCE 8 rib kit for my blower and was not sure how much boost I was going to make. I thought I'd make around 8 PSI > but hit 10 one time and it was over from there. My motor is currently under constuction to include a new fuel system and I should see around 550 RWHP when it is all done. This time I have done some reading and will be lowering CR and getting a very good fuel system.
Phamspeed turbo -Tell me your opinion! I just bought this and wanted your opinion. Did I make a mistake. I have an 2002 Z28 A4.
I got the PT70 with FMIC and BOV.
42 lb/hr injectors and PnP fuel pump.
Kit will be powered by a PT67 which is rated up to 780hp. Also with the kit is a Tial 44mm wastegate, no small 38mm gate here, we're expecting this thing to flow!! Kit is going to come with thick wall mild steel piping. Companies have had good results with 16ga, we're going one up just in case. All piping mandrel bent as always. Comes complete to install in one afternoon. Yes, it comes with a charge pipe coming from the turbo to tb. Note- take $200 off price if you do not need a charge pipe (for you fmic guys).
Here's the complete list of what it all comes with
PT67 P-trim
Tial 44mm wastegate
2.5" crossover pipes connected with v-band clamp
3" downpipe
All nuts/bolts
Gaskets
Oil feed line and fittings
Oil dump line and fittings
Oil dump flange
Charge pipe
Silicone hoses to complete charge pipe to tb
Again, this is a complete kit ready to bolt up and make your car boost. As the kit is w/o an intercooler, you'll be limited to about 6psi. Any higher boost than that and you'll need some sort of IC which we sell btw
Here are some options and upgrades that can be added
TurboXS RFL BOV- $150
PT70 rated at 820hp- $220
FMIC (comes with no IC piping)- $150
I got the PT70 with FMIC and BOV.
42 lb/hr injectors and PnP fuel pump.
Kit will be powered by a PT67 which is rated up to 780hp. Also with the kit is a Tial 44mm wastegate, no small 38mm gate here, we're expecting this thing to flow!! Kit is going to come with thick wall mild steel piping. Companies have had good results with 16ga, we're going one up just in case. All piping mandrel bent as always. Comes complete to install in one afternoon. Yes, it comes with a charge pipe coming from the turbo to tb. Note- take $200 off price if you do not need a charge pipe (for you fmic guys).
Here's the complete list of what it all comes with
PT67 P-trim
Tial 44mm wastegate
2.5" crossover pipes connected with v-band clamp
3" downpipe
All nuts/bolts
Gaskets
Oil feed line and fittings
Oil dump line and fittings
Oil dump flange
Charge pipe
Silicone hoses to complete charge pipe to tb
Again, this is a complete kit ready to bolt up and make your car boost. As the kit is w/o an intercooler, you'll be limited to about 6psi. Any higher boost than that and you'll need some sort of IC which we sell btw
Here are some options and upgrades that can be added
TurboXS RFL BOV- $150
PT70 rated at 820hp- $220
FMIC (comes with no IC piping)- $150
What turbo did you get the PT67 or the PT70? Not sure what you got. Did you get a complete kit with charge pipe also a fmic. If so the charge pipe won't do you any good because it's made for nonintercooled kit's. Phamspeed kit's don't come with IC piping you have fab that up or get someone to do it for you. I wouldn't run anymore then 5 psi without a fmic with you might get away with 8psi but some max out the 42#'s also I think you have to get a stall to gewt boost off the line with that PT70 the PT67 might of been a better choice for a street car with auto.
your contradicting yourself a couple times up there. you said you got the pt70 then right under it you said the kit has the pt67. then again in the list of what it comes with and then you state the pt70 upgrade. which on did ya get?
So your running the FMIC? Do you know how, or know someone that knows, how to bend pipe? Because Phamspeed doesn't have a FMIC piping kit. Just making sure your aware of that, because thats the only thing holding me back from this kit.
I take it your car is stock too, btw? Don't run over 5psi, and after you get the kit installed take it straight to a shop to get tuned. Don't floor it and keep the rpm down to keep the spool to a minimum. GET IT TUNED!
So your running the FMIC? Do you know how, or know someone that knows, how to bend pipe? Because Phamspeed doesn't have a FMIC piping kit. Just making sure your aware of that, because thats the only thing holding me back from this kit.
I take it your car is stock too, btw? Don't run over 5psi, and after you get the kit installed take it straight to a shop to get tuned. Don't floor it and keep the rpm down to keep the spool to a minimum. GET IT TUNED!
Originally Posted by HellRaiser
What turbo did you get the PT67 or the PT70? Not sure what you got. Did you get a complete kit with charge pipe also a fmic. If so the charge pipe won't do you any good because it's made for nonintercooled kit's. Phamspeed kit's don't come with IC piping you have fab that up or get someone to do it for you.
What He said^^^...it was just copied. Why did you get the pt70? The pt67 should have worked pretty well (Unless you have something very serious planned) And no...i dont think you made a mistake 
Just make sure you know someone that is able to make IC piping for you and get it tuned right away. Personally, I wouldnt go any higher than 8psi unless you plan to lower the compression and/or forge the internals. I also wouldnt expect spectacular track times unless you have something to build boost off the line. Most likely see some good traps though
Just make sure you know someone that is able to make IC piping for you and get it tuned right away. Personally, I wouldnt go any higher than 8psi unless you plan to lower the compression and/or forge the internals. I also wouldnt expect spectacular track times unless you have something to build boost off the line. Most likely see some good traps though 
Thread update. Sorry for the confusion. I got the PT70. Do I need larger than 42lb/hr injectors? Also, John Pham at Phamspeed didn't say anything about me needing to get the IC pipes. What should I do? I'm a damn newbie and where would I get the IC pipes for this?
I appreciate your help!
Thanks!
I appreciate your help!
Thanks!
Phamspeed questions!!! I ordered the budget kit today with the PT70 upgrade, FMIC and BOV. John Pham told me to get 42 lb/hr injectors and an upgraded fuel pump, which I did.
I have read posts that said I need to get some kind of piping for the intercooler that does not come with the kit. And others have said I need to get larger fuel injectors than the 42's. What is going on?
Do I need to get some kind of piping for the intercooler to work and do I need larger fuel injectors than the 42's?
I put my faith and trust in John Pham today and he said I need nothing other than his kit, the fuel injectors and the fuel pump. I don't know who to trust.
Pardon me for being a newbie but I really need your fellows help on this one.
Thanks,
I have read posts that said I need to get some kind of piping for the intercooler that does not come with the kit. And others have said I need to get larger fuel injectors than the 42's. What is going on?
Do I need to get some kind of piping for the intercooler to work and do I need larger fuel injectors than the 42's?
I put my faith and trust in John Pham today and he said I need nothing other than his kit, the fuel injectors and the fuel pump. I don't know who to trust.
Pardon me for being a newbie but I really need your fellows help on this one.
Thanks,
Well if you got the FMIC then you will need intercooler piping to go from the outlet of the turbo to the FMIC and out to the throttle body...last I checked the kit didn't come with IC pipes at all. You have to make em, or have someone do it for you.
I bought the same kit but I have the GT42 turbo. I supplied my own FMIC and my own IC pipes, as i've done this type of project before....but with a supercharger.
Do you have a stock engine? IF you do, the 42s will be fine as I can't see you wanting to push more than 8-10 psi on a stock block with a turbo...you will make some good power at those boost levels anyway.
IF you are stock run low boost and those injectors. Unless the kit options have changed recently you still have to supply your own intercooler pipes/tubing and silicone connectors..it starts to add up real quick.
J
I bought the same kit but I have the GT42 turbo. I supplied my own FMIC and my own IC pipes, as i've done this type of project before....but with a supercharger.
Do you have a stock engine? IF you do, the 42s will be fine as I can't see you wanting to push more than 8-10 psi on a stock block with a turbo...you will make some good power at those boost levels anyway.
IF you are stock run low boost and those injectors. Unless the kit options have changed recently you still have to supply your own intercooler pipes/tubing and silicone connectors..it starts to add up real quick.
J