Stenod Performance is starting another project car...
Originally Posted by Murdock
Check it out there. Im sure kevin (1BADWS6) can help me on this one, but he has NEVER missed a gear since having liberty proshift his trans! And the price is very reasonable!
Stenod
Originally Posted by STENOD
Check it out there. Im sure kevin (1BADWS6) can help me on this one, but he has NEVER missed a gear since having liberty proshift his trans! And the price is very reasonable!
Stenod
Stenod
I believe its $995........ but you cant downshift????? That sucks...... i guess ya cant daily drive huh???
Kyle
Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
I believe its $995........ but you cant downshift????? That sucks...... i guess ya cant daily drive huh???
Kyle
Kyle
The Bull
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
No, you can downshift. You just have to rev match because the synchronizers are not set up to allow you to slide into gear. A quick blip of the throttle on your downshift will take care of it. It's not like a full built Liberty clutchless, you can still put it in any gear. Sort of like shifting an old Wrangler into gear by rev matching and feeling for it to slide into the next gear.
Originally Posted by DERTY
No, you can downshift. You just have to rev match because the synchronizers are not set up to allow you to slide into gear. A quick blip of the throttle on your downshift will take care of it. It's not like a full built Liberty clutchless, you can still put it in any gear. Sort of like shifting an old Wrangler into gear by rev matching and feeling for it to slide into the next gear.
Is Stenod Performance a sponsor here or am I blind and not able to find the banner.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsors.php?pp=25&page=4
https://ls1tech.com/forums/sponsors.php?pp=25&page=4
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Originally Posted by DERTY
Not a sponsor and not solicitating. Joe is just making a post regarding the car that he is building to play along in the LS1Tech series.
Yep looks like he wasn't trying to sell anything
Not to mention the 'search' feature on that page doesn't work. I typed in a zip-code search for 48025 (Metro Detroit) and it came up with a shop in PA instead of the three or four local shops that are supporting tuners. Weird.
Mark
Mark
Originally Posted by DERTY
No, you can downshift. You just have to rev match because the synchronizers are not set up to allow you to slide into gear. A quick blip of the throttle on your downshift will take care of it. It's not like a full built Liberty clutchless, you can still put it in any gear. Sort of like shifting an old Wrangler into gear by rev matching and feeling for it to slide into the next gear.
Thanks Derty thats what i wanted to know. What else was done to the tranny? Viper input and output shafts??? What HP level are they saying its good for?
Kyle
The Bull
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
I believe Kevin's trans has a standard input and output shaft. Of course you can upgrade to the Viper stuff. I believe Taner has done that (not proshifted). Also, so that everyone knows, you MUST HOLD IT IN GEAR when racing. When you are driving around under normal load it's fine, but under full tilt load make sure you hold it in place. It's not a big deal because most people do keep their hand on the shifter when racing.
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From: Hazard Co. Maryland
Originally Posted by LTLHOMER
I thought you could downshift, just not with the added luxury of sycncronizers? What kinda street car can't downshift Joe???? lol
It's called heel/toe, rev match down shifts. It's a basically an old M22 setup then right? Or a NASCAR Jerico tranny. Straight gears and no synchros. Just what I thought. Hey, go drive a dump turck, that'll teach ya how to double clutch
A lost art that isn't that hard to master.Edit: Hell, don't even need to use the clutch. Left foot brake, throttle blip, let the tranny suck the shifter into gear. They really that prone to jumping out of gear?
The Bull
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From: Grand Rapids, MI
The gears are still slash cut factory gears. Liberty removes 3 out of every 4 teeth on the synchros and the gears so that the gaps are widened up. This allows a wider window to shift into. But the rest of the concept is the same as just heel-toe down shifting.
Originally Posted by DERTY
The gears are still slash cut factory gears. Liberty removes 3 out of every 4 teeth on the synchros and the gears so that the gaps are widened up. This allows a wider window to shift into. But the rest of the concept is the same as just heel-toe down shifting.
Right on. That "wider window" can also make it less streetable, depending on how people define streetable
When you're cruising around, you can get significant tip-in / tip-out clunk since the teeth are floating in a bigger than normal gap.