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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Default MAF.... blow through or pull from??

do you want to blow through it or pull through it. which is better and does it really make a differecne. just wondering what you guys thought and what you guys are doing
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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I know pull thru is better.
Not sure why.

I've heard blow thru is harder to tune at idle and part throttle.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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I'd think blow through is better becasue it will give a better representation of the air thats going into the motor. The compressor will change the air a little bit, but it's probably negligable. I dont think the MAF itself would care, as long as air is going through in the right direction.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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Blow or Push through is better.. Mellow your just supporting pull though cause thats all you can do with your Vortech setup..

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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depends on the maf style, there are benefits to both systems.

Most of my expierence is with ford tonsil style maf's and it is no question that a drawthrough setup is far easier to tune than a blowthrough setup.

The GM is not a tonsil style maf, so it does not seem to be as far off using it in blowthrough. Given the chance, I am still going to go with a drawthrouh on my car, eventhough a blowthrough does offer some nice advantages (blowing off air before it goes to the intercooler, keeping the aircharge temps lower)

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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Not really supporting pull thru.
I just have had no problems with idle quality or tuning with pull thru. That's all I can note.

I think the ATI people used to have tuning issues..
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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With the Procharger, I can unequivocally say that pull-thru is easier to tune and idles much better without the hunting and surging. I've swapped back and forth over and over again. Trust me on this... it is true.

Also, you can tame LTFT's without adjusting the IFR's or MAF or whatever else you alter to make them zero/negative quite as much. Check your LTFT's, swap to before the blower, and check it again. I've done this over and over. The MAF does not read correct with blow-thru on the Procharger setup. I don't remember the particulars, but it has something to do with the way hoses are routed that alter the PCV circulation or something along that line. It makes the system think there is a slight vacuum leak, and LTFT's will go positive trying to add fuel.

That being said, the boost doesn't seem to come on as strong and quite as high. It may be due to the restriction this presents at the inlet of the blower... my guess.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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BTW... I solved the slight drop in boost issue by putting on a bigger filter and a bigger MAF without a screen.

Also, in the default MAF location, use a MAF with a screen and a MAF without a screen. You will see the same surging issues I described at idle. The biggest deal for me with the MAf location was the LTFT issue. I hated having to manipulate tables to drop nearly +10 LTFT's.

In the AFTER blower position, as long as you keep the MAF screened, you should not have a big surge/hunt at idle.
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thanks for the replies i just wanted to see what everybody thought
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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All LPE TT's are blow through..........reduces the maf as a restriction.
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All LPE TT's are blow through..........reduces the maf as a restriction.
reduces as a restriction, or the only way to use it in a twin setup without fancy converter boxes ?

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Reduces as a restriction. Better to put positive pressure through an orifice then negative pressure. Less pumping loss.
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