Belt walk/travelling over grooves
#1
Belt walk/travelling over grooves
Ive recently got my LS1/YSi running but have a couple of issues.
I have 12 rib pulleys although currently only using a 6 rib belt. But when I fit the belt on the inner grooves, once driving ( I assume at high rpm's ) the belt travels to the outside of the pulleys.
There is good belt wrap, and its a manual tensioner, which is secured pretty tight. There wouldnt be any real slippage issues yet for all the power/boost Im running.
The grooves appear to be inline with each other as best I can measure.
I assume this means the blower pulley and crank pulley arent running true along the same plane ? even if the grooves appear to be in-line ?
ie, the blower needs tilted back a bit ? Does that sound right ?
Ive already tore one belt due to this, so something is up. Bracket flex wouldnt be a major issue, although it does move a little bit when tensioning.
Thanks, Stevie
I have 12 rib pulleys although currently only using a 6 rib belt. But when I fit the belt on the inner grooves, once driving ( I assume at high rpm's ) the belt travels to the outside of the pulleys.
There is good belt wrap, and its a manual tensioner, which is secured pretty tight. There wouldnt be any real slippage issues yet for all the power/boost Im running.
The grooves appear to be inline with each other as best I can measure.
I assume this means the blower pulley and crank pulley arent running true along the same plane ? even if the grooves appear to be in-line ?
ie, the blower needs tilted back a bit ? Does that sound right ?
Ive already tore one belt due to this, so something is up. Bracket flex wouldnt be a major issue, although it does move a little bit when tensioning.
Thanks, Stevie
#3
AT the minute I dont believe I can actually get a 12 rib in the length I need ( 64" )
I have ordered a couple of 10-ribs, but Im still waiting on them, so in meantime I used what I can easily get which is 6-ribs.
As I say, the grooves appear to be in-line as best I can tell. But, I did have to put washers behind the bracket when assembling as without them the SC would have been tilted backwards at an angle. It seems I may have went too far, although at a glance it looks ok.
So bracket flex, or having the blower slightly tilted ( in same way as bracket flex due to too much tension ) would cause this problem ?
I have ordered a couple of 10-ribs, but Im still waiting on them, so in meantime I used what I can easily get which is 6-ribs.
As I say, the grooves appear to be in-line as best I can tell. But, I did have to put washers behind the bracket when assembling as without them the SC would have been tilted backwards at an angle. It seems I may have went too far, although at a glance it looks ok.
So bracket flex, or having the blower slightly tilted ( in same way as bracket flex due to too much tension ) would cause this problem ?
#4
I can remove or use thinner washers from behind the bracket at the PAS pump ( area circled ) which would move the blower head in the direction indicated.
I assume this is what I need to do ?
I assume this is what I need to do ?
#7
I'll try spacing it and see what happens. I'll maybe set it at a bit of an angle, so it pulls straight when tensioned.
I dont honestly believe it is slipping, but I only have 50-60 FI miles on it anyway. Datalogs seem to show a smooth enough boost rise.
Hopefully the 10-rib belts will arrive soon. The guys getting other stuff for me, so will be shipping it to me in one go.
Unless you are aware of anyone who makes a 64" 12-rib ? I could work with 63.5-64.5 if needed.
I also have smaller pulleys being made, so when I'm ready to use them, could maybe drop to a 63.5 or thereabouts. Ive tried searching online, and I cant find anyone who makes them those lengths.
I dont honestly believe it is slipping, but I only have 50-60 FI miles on it anyway. Datalogs seem to show a smooth enough boost rise.
Hopefully the 10-rib belts will arrive soon. The guys getting other stuff for me, so will be shipping it to me in one go.
Unless you are aware of anyone who makes a 64" 12-rib ? I could work with 63.5-64.5 if needed.
I also have smaller pulleys being made, so when I'm ready to use them, could maybe drop to a 63.5 or thereabouts. Ive tried searching online, and I cant find anyone who makes them those lengths.
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#9
I noticed last year that I would lose my belt at the 1000 mark on a lot of runs. I was not sure if it was walking off the entire time or if my shifts had something to do with it.
On my 136mph run I had belt slippage, it was only a peak of 14psi. Next pass I threw the belt halfway in the run.
Remember my strut pics?
On my 136mph run I had belt slippage, it was only a peak of 14psi. Next pass I threw the belt halfway in the run.
Remember my strut pics?
#10
When I initinally fitted the bracket, I had to place washers behind it, between it and the PAS pump, in order to align it with the crank pulley. I thought this a bit crap, but visually it appeared true. Under tension it will pulll towards the crank a bit.
Unfortunately I dont have room for a strut brace in front of the crank, although there would be room at the blower.
Perhaps if I lost the extra 2 ribs on the crank pulley that will never be used, it might give me enough room.
How deep actually is the strut brace ? From face of pulley, to end of bolt/stud ?
Ive tried removing a washer, but havent tried it on the road yet. If anything when sitting free it looks a little bit tilted back now. That might help things.
Are there any tools around to check alignment ?? I did see a pic of someone using a lazer a while back ?
Unfortunately I dont have room for a strut brace in front of the crank, although there would be room at the blower.
Perhaps if I lost the extra 2 ribs on the crank pulley that will never be used, it might give me enough room.
How deep actually is the strut brace ? From face of pulley, to end of bolt/stud ?
Ive tried removing a washer, but havent tried it on the road yet. If anything when sitting free it looks a little bit tilted back now. That might help things.
Are there any tools around to check alignment ?? I did see a pic of someone using a lazer a while back ?