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Old May 21, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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I am planning on a forged engine. Looking to keep my P1 so a 347 should be ok.

Any recommendations on which one? I plan on keeping my 6.0L heads, Nitrous, and switching to a blower friendly cam.

I would search but it is down...
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Old May 21, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert
I am planning on a forged engine. Looking to keep my P1 so a 347 should be ok.

Any recommendations on which one? I plan on keeping my 6.0L heads, Nitrous, and switching to a blower friendly cam.

I would search but it is down...
I hear APE is having a shortblock sale . You should probably go with one of the sponsors that have been around for a while for a forged shortblock. And use a credit card instead of check/moneyorder .
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Old May 21, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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Old May 21, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Caveman
I hear APE is having a shortblock sale . You should probably go with one of the sponsors that have been around for a while for a forged shortblock. And use a credit card instead of check/moneyorder .
APE

Well even though most have been around doesn't mean that much.

But yes credit card. I learn that one the hard way.

Anyway back on topic. Would like to have 600 rwhp reliable. Just not familair with long block minus heads.
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Old May 21, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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APE

Well even though most have been around doesn't mean that much.

But yes credit card. I learn that one the hard way.

Anyway back on topic. Would like to have 600 rwhp reliable. Just not familair with long block minus heads.
APE(Automotive Performance Engineering) was a joke a bad one at that. You think you had a bad time with Jay @ Absolute, this company had almost 50 engines sold on a shortblock sale about $140,000 in customers $$ and owed alot to vendors/sponsors like Thunder Racing, Billingsly,KTS and others and just went under about 2-3 weeks ago .
There are alot of sponsors that build good shortblocks, the guys that deal most w/FI motors are W2W, Speed Inc, HPE and Livernois. I am having my shortblock rebuilt by Next Level Perf in Orlando using a badass Callies crank from W2W but they mainly do motors inhouse deffinately not to Cali.

P.S. W2W & HPE have the fastest LS1 cars running right now
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Old May 22, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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I preferred using a local shop. I just ordered the internals myself and had them assemble, balance, etc. I just felt more comfortable than going with a mail order motor.
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I preferred using a local shop. I just ordered the internals myself and had them assemble, balance, etc. I just felt more comfortable than going with a mail order motor.
Who did the work on your engine? Also how is the engine running? I was looking for a local shop too.
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Like I posted in the other thread. SDPC.
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Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert

Would like to have 600 rwhp reliable. Just not familair with long block minus heads.
Is your current motor history? If not why not use it? You can do 600rw reliably on a stock engine as long as you don't spin it way high. Are forged pistons, rods & cranks nice pieces - yes. Are they need for 600rw - only if you run a crappy tune. I shake my head when reading about the kid who has the thread going on how he spent all this money & time only to blow it up...because he didn't consider the most fundamental change: the tune and specifially the timing.

Rod bolts are said to be the weak link in the ls1. Now, if you're opening the motor to replace said bolts and you have the cash & desire to replace the pistons & rods - go for it. But you'll be way above your stated hp/reliability goal. If I ever open up my engine I'd be inclinded to spend the money on better internals, but it's overkill.

Concentrate on the tune and 600rwhp is in the bag if you can move enough air and have the fuel to support it. Once the search feature works again, go back and read some of the incon threads from 3 yrs ago. Matt Harlan used a stock block for something like 30,000 miles with a tune around 600rw.
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W2W....enough said.
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I just assembled mine with a local machine shop and put lunati internals and diamond pistons
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Old May 22, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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I just assembled mine with a local machine shop and put lunati internals and diamond pistons
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Old May 22, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveSchott
Is your current motor history? If not why not use it? You can do 600rw reliably on a stock engine as long as you don't spin it way high. Are forged pistons, rods & cranks nice pieces - yes. Are they need for 600rw - only if you run a crappy tune. I shake my head when reading about the kid who has the thread going on how he spent all this money & time only to blow it up...because he didn't consider the most fundamental change: the tune and specifially the timing.

Rod bolts are said to be the weak link in the ls1. Now, if you're opening the motor to replace said bolts and you have the cash & desire to replace the pistons & rods - go for it. But you'll be way above your stated hp/reliability goal. If I ever open up my engine I'd be inclinded to spend the money on better internals, but it's overkill.

Concentrate on the tune and 600rwhp is in the bag if you can move enough air and have the fuel to support it. Once the search feature works again, go back and read some of the incon threads from 3 yrs ago. Matt Harlan used a stock block for something like 30,000 miles with a tune around 600rw.
I think I have a cracked block. When searching for a leak. I pressurized the cooling system. And found what I thought was the only leak (Thermostat Housing). I am guessing coolant got into the cylinders, because when I tried to start it, the starter broke off. And took one of the tabs off the engine block. So far everyone says I have to pull the engine, so might as well put a new one back in. (87k on current motor). Plus it is starting to knock.

I want 600 rwhp without Nitrous and be able to shoot a 50 shot.
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