Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

60lbs injectors and a PT-88

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:15 PM
  #1  
Z06PSI's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,647
Likes: 1
From: Thomson, GA
Default 60lbs injectors and a PT-88

How much can I expect out of 60lb injectors with a PT-88 on a 347?

What is the largest injector a stock PCm can handle..?????
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:42 PM
  #2  
blackz93's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,661
Likes: 1
From: nc
Default

They'll just have to be high impedance injectors. Are they mototron's?
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:55 PM
  #3  
quicksilverado's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,899
Likes: 0
From: Marietta, Ga.
Default

Originally Posted by redrumss
How much can I expect out of 60lb injectors with a PT-88 on a 347?

What is the largest injector a stock PCm can handle..?????
Maybe Cablebandit will chime in. He's using 60s on his 347. 700rwhp, but he is also using methanol.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 03:02 AM
  #4  
NA$TY-TA's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,331
Likes: 1
From: San Antonio, TX
Default

no RCengineering makes 75# injectors also..... but there BIG $$$ about $7-800
Kyle
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 04:24 AM
  #5  
gametech's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,904
Likes: 906
From: Stockbridge GA
Default

What fuel pressure can you run? My understanding is that the 60# mototrons can flow over 80#'s at 85psi without locking up. Unfortunately, if you figure 85# fuel pressure referenced to boost, your fuel pump would have to be able to push around 100psi or more.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:17 AM
  #6  
Z06PSI's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,647
Likes: 1
From: Thomson, GA
Default

I have a Aeromotive a1000-10 for right now. one 10an feed line and then a y to8 an to the billet rails with the stock being a return line. I have the regulator as well.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 09:25 AM
  #7  
DAPSUPRSLO's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 0
From: Salisbury,MD
Default

Rick over at HPE indicated to me that my Mototron 60s would be just fine with the PTE76GTS and my 408. The 88 is bigger but not much. I think it's all in the fuel pressure you run.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 02:13 PM
  #8  
NoGo's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,814
Likes: 110
From: Mass
Default

Originally Posted by redrumss
How much can I expect out of 60lb injectors with a PT-88 on a 347?

What is the largest injector a stock PCm can handle..?????
Mototrons cranked all the way up (85 psi fuel pressure) should get you to just over 800 RWHP......but that is completely maxed out. Additionally, you are going to have to really oversize your fuel pump to deliver at that pressure.

The biggest injector without molesting the injector circuit of the stock PCM/driver is around 70 lb/hr. You can get away with RC Engineerings 75 lb injector, but it requires some trickery with the programming. I run 75 lb injectors on the stock PCM/driver.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 10:56 PM
  #9  
NA$TY-TA's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,331
Likes: 1
From: San Antonio, TX
Default

Originally Posted by NoGo
Mototrons cranked all the way up (85 psi fuel pressure) should get you to just over 800 RWHP......but that is completely maxed out. Additionally, you are going to have to really oversize your fuel pump to deliver at that pressure.

The biggest injector without molesting the injector circuit of the stock PCM/driver is around 70 lb/hr. You can get away with RC Engineerings 75 lb injector, but it requires some trickery with the programming. I run 75 lb injectors on the stock PCM/driver.

Kevin who did you get them from??? the injectors i mean..... and if ya dont mind how much??
Kyle
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 08:22 AM
  #10  
NoGo's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,814
Likes: 110
From: Mass
Default

RC Engineering provides them.

www.rceng.com
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 12:36 PM
  #11  
Z06PSI's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Addict
iTrader: (33)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,647
Likes: 1
From: Thomson, GA
Default

and lbs translates to what cc....?????
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 03:40 PM
  #12  
NoGo's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,814
Likes: 110
From: Mass
Default

Originally Posted by redrumss
and lbs translates to what cc....?????
1 lb/hr = 10.5 cc/min (for normal pump gas)

750 cc/min = 71.42 lb/hr
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 03:43 PM
  #13  
2000 Tran Zam's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,333
Likes: 0
From: Ahwatukee, Az
Default

ya, im gonna be on the stock computer and opted for the RC engineering 75#ers. i got a smoking deal, paid only 500 for them from a guy that wasnt gonna need them(brand new)

only thing i heard bad about high impedance inj's is something about the duty cycle being f'ed up or something, i cant remember what it was that was negative i heard about them...
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 04:18 PM
  #14  
NA$TY-TA's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,331
Likes: 1
From: San Antonio, TX
Default

From my calculations using there 650cc or 60# injectors and a 65psi fuel pressure the injectors should be able to do 100.86HP per injector at 80% duty cycle.......
And from most calculations thats not taking in drivetrain loss ..... so are we talking around 700rwhp......
I know Mightey Mouse did 800rwhp with his Motrons 60#ers, but he was also using 80 psi of fuel pressure and Meth.
Kyle
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 05:53 PM
  #15  
JZ 97 SS 1500's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,725
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Default

60's can handle up to 100psi sustained pressure. Its not recommended but its possible. 800rwhp can be done with them.

Jose
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 06:38 PM
  #16  
2000 Tran Zam's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,333
Likes: 0
From: Ahwatukee, Az
Default

didnt orange hugger ss or someone do 844 rwhp with meth on 60#ers?
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 09:23 PM
  #17  
qqwqeqwrqwqtq's Avatar
FormerVendor
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,444
Likes: 2
From: WWW.SPEEDINC.COM
Default

Yes, we made 844rwhp with the mototron 60's at 70psi base pressure and 100% duty cycle. (this was with dual walbro pumps).

It's definitely a less than ideal situation, but it is possible.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2005 | 10:33 PM
  #18  
Warbird's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

I'd be very interested to know what the max sustainable power would be with these injectors. My new fuel system has dual Walboro 340's intank with a C5 fuel rail and return from the rail. I have an AFPR mounted on the fuel rail and it is my belief (don't now for sure) that my pump can run as high as 85 psi. I was hoping to see 750-800 on pump gas now I'm wondering if it's doable with the stock PCM and my set up
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:57 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE