just finished a 2002 ss 810 rwhp trick setup
so how much will you guy's give to see it make that on a dyno jet ??? i plan to do it ..the reason we keep the single intercoolers is that we want to do it with less .it means more than just putting the best intercooler on it, i want to do it this way so we can say that it can be done .and then later we will change it to a big s-fmic,or maybe air to water we will see we will post pics of the car on both dynos and the results.it should be about two weeks before we can get her back to gether..
You are getting a little too defensive, I'll believe whatever you say but no pics of the car, no timeslips, no dyno sheets, stock intercoolers, and some may get a little skeptical 
If you can run 150mph with a d1 on a 346 in a 3700lb car with no nitrous you da man, going to have to prove it to a pretty tough group of critics and with zero proof so far and getting defensive you arent making your case IMO. Half the people here still dont believe hardcore ran in the 7s with their car so its a tough crowd
i wouldnt give 1.00 to see it, I'm cheap
If you can run 150mph with a d1 on a 346 in a 3700lb car with no nitrous you da man, going to have to prove it to a pretty tough group of critics and with zero proof so far and getting defensive you arent making your case IMO. Half the people here still dont believe hardcore ran in the 7s with their car so its a tough crowd
i wouldnt give 1.00 to see it, I'm cheap
i hear what you are saying i posted pics of the set up on ls2 .com for some reason i have not been able to shrink the pics to a small enough size for ls1 teck to accept.you can check it out on forced induction
and i will want that dollar soon !!!
and i will want that dollar soon !!!
the only reason i am getting defensive is because that the other cars that we tune on the same dyno lower hp # cars make exactly what they are suposed to no more so why is it that when we make an outstanding # everybody cry's foul.it does not make sense .so like i posted before we will prove it on both dyno's so this does not happen again.thanks for everybody's input...
When you do something no one else has done you need to have the info to back it up. Most would be here with all kinds of specs and pics if they made that power but if you come in and say 'well I did it because I'm a better tuner then any of you' expect some backlash there are quite a few that know what they are talking about and can tune a FI car pretty well.
Good luck to ya, dont have to prove it to me on any dyno - just go run the number and post up the video
there are quite a few that know what they are talking about and can tune a FI car pretty well.Good luck to ya, dont have to prove it to me on any dyno - just go run the number and post up the video
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I dont know that anybody said your numbers are inaccurate.
Just stating that they will be very different from what you see on the dynojet.
You may prove me wrong but I predict ~100 less on the dynojet vs the dynapak numbers when you do the test.
which by the way I think is very cool. educational for all which is what this board should be all about.
Just stating that they will be very different from what you see on the dynojet.
You may prove me wrong but I predict ~100 less on the dynojet vs the dynapak numbers when you do the test.
which by the way I think is very cool. educational for all which is what this board should be all about.
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just thought every body would like to know we have comparison data from the old school lt1 camaro in this months gm high tech mag on page #42....
ON A DYNO JET IT MADE ...284 RWHP
312 RWTQ
ON A DYNA PACK DYNO IT MADE ....256 RWHP
284 RWTQ
THESE NUMBERS WHERE BACK TO BACK WTHIN TWO DAYS OF EACHOTHER. THE DYNO JET NUMBERS WERE PRODUCED BY LAPD IN CHATS WORTH AND THE DYNA PACK NUMBERS WERE PRODUCED BY EXTREME PERFORMANCE IN CHATSWOTH..
I DO BELIEVE I WAS RIGHT.......SO IF MY CALCULATIONS ARE CORECT THE CAR WILL MAKE 78 ''''MORE'''' RWHP ON A DYNO JET.....
WE MADE THESE DYNA PACK DYNO NUMBERS FOR A UPCOMEING ISSUE OF GM HIGH TECH MAGAZINE............
just thought every body would like to know we have comparison data from the old school lt1 camaro in this months gm high tech mag on page #42....
ON A DYNO JET IT MADE ...284 RWHP
312 RWTQ
ON A DYNA PACK DYNO IT MADE ....256 RWHP
284 RWTQ
THESE NUMBERS WHERE BACK TO BACK WTHIN TWO DAYS OF EACHOTHER. THE DYNO JET NUMBERS WERE PRODUCED BY LAPD IN CHATS WORTH AND THE DYNA PACK NUMBERS WERE PRODUCED BY EXTREME PERFORMANCE IN CHATSWOTH..
I DO BELIEVE I WAS RIGHT.......SO IF MY CALCULATIONS ARE CORECT THE CAR WILL MAKE 78 ''''MORE'''' RWHP ON A DYNO JET.....
WE MADE THESE DYNA PACK DYNO NUMBERS FOR A UPCOMEING ISSUE OF GM HIGH TECH MAGAZINE............
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Originally Posted by kp
You are getting a little too defensive, I'll believe whatever you say but no pics of the car, no timeslips, no dyno sheets, stock intercoolers, and some may get a little skeptical
If you can run 150mph with a d1 on a 346 in a 3700lb car with no nitrous you da man, going to have to prove it to a pretty tough group of critics and with zero proof so far and getting defensive you arent making your case IMO. Half the people here still dont believe hardcore ran in the 7s with their car so its a tough crowd
i wouldnt give 1.00 to see it, I'm cheap
If you can run 150mph with a d1 on a 346 in a 3700lb car with no nitrous you da man, going to have to prove it to a pretty tough group of critics and with zero proof so far and getting defensive you arent making your case IMO. Half the people here still dont believe hardcore ran in the 7s with their car so its a tough crowd
i wouldnt give 1.00 to see it, I'm cheap
Now if there is an issue with the Dynapack dyno numbers not being accurate, then please post the information so we can get this straightened out.
Dynapack claims better accuracy due to taking the wheel slip/growth out of the equation. They also claim to be able to sense the extra load on the alternator when the headlights are turned on. At $85k for their setup, I don't doubt it.
And in answer to the other question, yes there is still more to be found here. The IAT temps were a lot higher than I wanted to see.
Ken
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Originally Posted by Super Sport X2
The car made 810 HP to the rear wheels. I know because I tuned it using our 2 bar code.
Now if there is an issue with the Dynapack dyno numbers not being accurate, then please post the information so we can get this straightened out.
Dynapack claims better accuracy due to taking the wheel slip/growth out of the equation. They also claim to be able to sense the extra load on the alternator when the headlights are turned on. At $85k for their setup, I don't doubt it.
And in answer to the other question, yes there is still more to be found here. The IAT temps were a lot higher than I wanted to see.
Ken
- HP Tuners
Now if there is an issue with the Dynapack dyno numbers not being accurate, then please post the information so we can get this straightened out.
Dynapack claims better accuracy due to taking the wheel slip/growth out of the equation. They also claim to be able to sense the extra load on the alternator when the headlights are turned on. At $85k for their setup, I don't doubt it.
And in answer to the other question, yes there is still more to be found here. The IAT temps were a lot higher than I wanted to see.
Ken
- HP Tuners
I'm not the one arguing about dyno numbers, I could give a crap to be honest.
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Originally Posted by Super Sport X2
The car made 810 HP to the rear wheels. I know because I tuned it using our 2 bar code.
Now if there is an issue with the Dynapack dyno numbers not being accurate, then please post the information so we can get this straightened out.
Dynapack claims better accuracy due to taking the wheel slip/growth out of the equation. They also claim to be able to sense the extra load on the alternator when the headlights are turned on. At $85k for their setup, I don't doubt it.
And in answer to the other question, yes there is still more to be found here. The IAT temps were a lot higher than I wanted to see.
Ken
- HP Tuners
Now if there is an issue with the Dynapack dyno numbers not being accurate, then please post the information so we can get this straightened out.
Dynapack claims better accuracy due to taking the wheel slip/growth out of the equation. They also claim to be able to sense the extra load on the alternator when the headlights are turned on. At $85k for their setup, I don't doubt it.
And in answer to the other question, yes there is still more to be found here. The IAT temps were a lot higher than I wanted to see.
Ken
- HP Tuners
I think it's safe to say the dyno standard on here and in most places in North America is the Dynojet. I have a friend with a brand new AWD dynapack and it's a consistent 10-15% higher than any of the dynojets in town.
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Right its not a question of accurate.
Its just that they are different. Hands down the dynapak is one of if not the best dyno to be tuning your car on.
I will be very curious to see when you do the comparo.
If the dynapak reads less I will be shocked because that will be the exact opposite of what I see here.
You say you will read 78 more on the dynojet, I still say 78-100 less.
When will you get a chance to do this?
I think at this point it's no longer doubting the car makes big numbers, it's become a, compared to 80% of the population or whatever the number is that uses a dynojet, what kind of numbers would they see. I say right at or just over 700.
Its just that they are different. Hands down the dynapak is one of if not the best dyno to be tuning your car on.
I will be very curious to see when you do the comparo.
If the dynapak reads less I will be shocked because that will be the exact opposite of what I see here.
You say you will read 78 more on the dynojet, I still say 78-100 less.
When will you get a chance to do this?
I think at this point it's no longer doubting the car makes big numbers, it's become a, compared to 80% of the population or whatever the number is that uses a dynojet, what kind of numbers would they see. I say right at or just over 700.
115 in the 1/8th sounds like 9.4's or better, so the car is making big power if it's mostly full weight.
But coming on here Rob and pounding your chest about the Dynapack is a nonevent, none of us care, we use the Dynojet as the standard. It's what we have been doing since 1998. We fear change.
But coming on here Rob and pounding your chest about the Dynapack is a nonevent, none of us care, we use the Dynojet as the standard. It's what we have been doing since 1998. We fear change.
The Car Weighs 3700 Lbs With Driver..a Comparison Has Ben Made Details In Previous Post Stating The Differience Between The Two Dyno Pulls,i Think The Argument Has Been Solved .but We Swill Still Do The Comparison With The 'ss'....and I Was Just Like You Guy's As Far As The Dyno Jet Being The Standard ,as A Matter Of Fact I Was In Process Of Bying One For The Shop When I Was Turned On To The Dyna Pack Dyno.and Let Me Tell You The First Time I Tuned On It It Was Like Going From A Honda To A Cadalac As Far As Tuning Is Concerned So I Proceded To Cancel My Dyno Jet Order And Start Trying To Get A Dyna Pack.i Still Like The Dyno Jet ,but I Feel That The Guy's That Are On This Board Saying That The Numbers Are Incorrect And So On And So Forth Do Not Know What They Are Talking About Thats All ,i Am Not Trying To Beat My Chest And Say Look At Me ,but So What If I Was It Is Something To Be Proud Of .so We Will Post Yet Another Comparison This Time The Car In Question.
Originally Posted by Blackbird
Right its not a question of accurate.
Its just that they are different. Hands down the dynapak is one of if not the best dyno to be tuning your car on.
I will be very curious to see when you do the comparo.
If the dynapak reads less I will be shocked because that will be the exact opposite of what I see here.
You say you will read 78 more on the dynojet, I still say 78-100 less.
When will you get a chance to do this?
I think at this point it's no longer doubting the car makes big numbers, it's become a, compared to 80% of the population or whatever the number is that uses a dynojet, what kind of numbers would they see. I say right at or just over 700.
Its just that they are different. Hands down the dynapak is one of if not the best dyno to be tuning your car on.
I will be very curious to see when you do the comparo.
If the dynapak reads less I will be shocked because that will be the exact opposite of what I see here.
You say you will read 78 more on the dynojet, I still say 78-100 less.
When will you get a chance to do this?
I think at this point it's no longer doubting the car makes big numbers, it's become a, compared to 80% of the population or whatever the number is that uses a dynojet, what kind of numbers would they see. I say right at or just over 700.
Originally Posted by ROB55
THERE IS NO WAY A CAR THAT WAYS 3700 LBS WILL GO 115 MPH IN THE 8TH WITH ONLY 700 RWHP IT IS IMPOSIBLE ,MAYBE IF THE CAR WEIGHED 3000 LBS IT WOULD BE POSIBLE ,I JUST WISH THE GUY'S THAT ARE POSTING THIS CR-- WOULD DO SOME RESEARCH OR DO I DARE SAY IT EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE THEY SAY SOMETHING..
Its alright man.... no need to get mad trying to get your point across to alot of people who really dont care or in most cases like rialing people up....... When ya do the compare and come back on here to tell your finding it will either shut people up or show you, you were a lil off that is all........ Me... i like hearing big dyno numbers like everyone else, but i like track numbers better..... It will be alright in the end man.
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Originally Posted by Blackbird
Right its not a question of accurate.
Its just that they are different. Hands down the dynapak is one of if not the best dyno to be tuning your car on.
I will be very curious to see when you do the comparo.
If the dynapak reads less I will be shocked because that will be the exact opposite of what I see here.
You say you will read 78 more on the dynojet, I still say 78-100 less.
When will you get a chance to do this?
I think at this point it's no longer doubting the car makes big numbers, it's become a, compared to 80% of the population or whatever the number is that uses a dynojet, what kind of numbers would they see. I say right at or just over 700.
Its just that they are different. Hands down the dynapak is one of if not the best dyno to be tuning your car on.
I will be very curious to see when you do the comparo.
If the dynapak reads less I will be shocked because that will be the exact opposite of what I see here.
You say you will read 78 more on the dynojet, I still say 78-100 less.
When will you get a chance to do this?
I think at this point it's no longer doubting the car makes big numbers, it's become a, compared to 80% of the population or whatever the number is that uses a dynojet, what kind of numbers would they see. I say right at or just over 700.
I'm curious too. There is no doubt he will need a comparison on another dyno to be certain, but the final track numbers need to come in as well.
I will talk to Rob about dragging it over to a dynojet the same day to see what the difference is (hopefully this weekend).
Ken
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I am just basing my comments of what I have seen.
I have personally witnessed 3 cars come off a dynapak and drive down the the local dynojet and redyno and the numbers on the dynojet were approx 15% lower.
I am not saying the dynojet is more accurate. I think they are crap compared to the dynapak. Again the only point I am trying to get accross is the dynojet number (which most of the readers use) will be lower and it should be noted so people can more accurately compare. Just a fact of life more people dyno race than race at the track.
So AGAIN read my posts, I DO NOT DOUBT the car is making 810 hp at the axle, I am saying dont just say this car made 810rwhp and leave it at that, it should be noted it made 810rwhp on a dynapak which would equate to XXXhp for the dynojet folks.
Unfortunately 90% of the people that read these posts dont understand or dont care to understand how the dynapak works or why it's better or why it kicks out the numbers it does.
I have personally witnessed 3 cars come off a dynapak and drive down the the local dynojet and redyno and the numbers on the dynojet were approx 15% lower.
I am not saying the dynojet is more accurate. I think they are crap compared to the dynapak. Again the only point I am trying to get accross is the dynojet number (which most of the readers use) will be lower and it should be noted so people can more accurately compare. Just a fact of life more people dyno race than race at the track.
So AGAIN read my posts, I DO NOT DOUBT the car is making 810 hp at the axle, I am saying dont just say this car made 810rwhp and leave it at that, it should be noted it made 810rwhp on a dynapak which would equate to XXXhp for the dynojet folks.
Unfortunately 90% of the people that read these posts dont understand or dont care to understand how the dynapak works or why it's better or why it kicks out the numbers it does.