Cheep turbo kit.
Cheep turbo kit. I have been exploring buying a set of AFR 205 heads and a cam. While doing some research I thought why not do a cheep turbo setup? I have a 220.2/223.8 .553/.556 117.7* lsa cam siting in the garage and a set of 6.0 Aluminum heads.
The car needs to stay streetable and user friendly so a Big cam is out of the question.
I feel there would be a nice power advantage in doing a cheep turbo kit, installing the 6.0 heads to lower compression, ARP rod bolts and the cam above instead of a Head and cam package. With the parts I already have (6.0 heads and a turbo cam, comp 918 springs, ARP rod bolts) the price would be fairly close especially if I found a nice used kit.
I would need injectors, cam kit, new head bolts, and the turbo kit and thats it.
Any suggestions or ideas?
I figure 8psi with the lower compression, tuned should gain me some very good power.
Please feel free to add comments or suggestions.
The car needs to stay streetable and user friendly so a Big cam is out of the question.
I feel there would be a nice power advantage in doing a cheep turbo kit, installing the 6.0 heads to lower compression, ARP rod bolts and the cam above instead of a Head and cam package. With the parts I already have (6.0 heads and a turbo cam, comp 918 springs, ARP rod bolts) the price would be fairly close especially if I found a nice used kit.
I would need injectors, cam kit, new head bolts, and the turbo kit and thats it.
Any suggestions or ideas?
I figure 8psi with the lower compression, tuned should gain me some very good power.
Please feel free to add comments or suggestions.
I found this kit in the forsale section.
For 2 thousand dollars its hard to beat.
The AFR 205's are more then this Turbo setup.
I will attach pics what do you guys think?
Again I am not looking for 700 HP, but I also dont what to waste money on a bad setup.
My goals would be at least 500RWHP.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ar+mount+turbo
For 2 thousand dollars its hard to beat.
The AFR 205's are more then this Turbo setup.
I will attach pics what do you guys think?
Again I am not looking for 700 HP, but I also dont what to waste money on a bad setup.
My goals would be at least 500RWHP.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ar+mount+turbo
you know that everyone and their mother would wanna get a cheap turbo setup if they could.
are you thinking of just doing it with piping and the turbo, or what all would be included.
are you thinking of just doing it with piping and the turbo, or what all would be included.
Basicially I will add the cam, 6.0 heads, Rod bolts, and springs I already have siting around. I will then buy new gaskets, injectors, fuel pump, and a basic Turbo kit. No innercooler at this time unless one is provided with the kit. No alki injection or nitrous just the basic Turbo setup. Tune it on 93 octane with LS1 edit to where I feel it is a safe tune and have fun.
I realize everyone would do a cheep turbo kit if possible, but when compairing to a nice head and cam package the gains might out weight the price difference.
Either way new gaskets, injectors, and head bolts/studs will be needed so with the items I already own plus the kit I listed above I could do a Turbo setup for about the same price as a nice H/C setup.
thanks for the input so far keep it coming.
I am really leaning on buying this, installing it next week and having it tuned with dyno numbers the week after.
Can anyone think of the negatives?
I realize everyone would do a cheep turbo kit if possible, but when compairing to a nice head and cam package the gains might out weight the price difference.
Either way new gaskets, injectors, and head bolts/studs will be needed so with the items I already own plus the kit I listed above I could do a Turbo setup for about the same price as a nice H/C setup.
thanks for the input so far keep it coming.
I am really leaning on buying this, installing it next week and having it tuned with dyno numbers the week after.
Can anyone think of the negatives?
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Verdad Gallardo are those log style manifolds? i dont know how to tell the difference, but some people shy away from them due to the obvious amount of backpressure they make. also, will that kit be able to retain ac and power steering?
any other fabrication needed? will the downpipe be routed above the k member? do you need a tubular k member or can you use the stock.
these are just things off the top of my head that ive seen people ask quite often.
any other fabrication needed? will the downpipe be routed above the k member? do you need a tubular k member or can you use the stock.
these are just things off the top of my head that ive seen people ask quite often.
Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
are those log style manifolds? i dont know how to tell the difference, but some people shy away from them due to the obvious amount of backpressure they make.
Philip S.
Originally Posted by BigBlockChev572
I remember a company showing pics of a turbo kit they made for a customer. They reversed the stock manifolds and they made ~1200HP from STOCK manifolds.
Philip S.
Philip S.
you loose ac though
Originally Posted by BigBlockChev572
I remember a company showing pics of a turbo kit they made for a customer. They reversed the stock manifolds and they made ~1200HP from STOCK manifolds.
Philip S.
Philip S.
ya, that was on truck manifolds in a 6.0 liter motor right?
Originally Posted by slyws6
Oh and they are long tube headers, it's a rear mount kit.
-Sly
-Sly
Since you built it what do you think of it?
Please give me all the info you can.
What kind of power did you make?
As you can see I am not trying to make a race car with my car just trying to do a real fun but cheep setup and when I saw this item for sale it really got my head thinking.
Thanks
Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
are those log style manifolds? i dont know how to tell the difference, but some people shy away from them due to the obvious amount of backpressure they make. also, will that kit be able to retain ac and power steering?
any other fabrication needed? will the downpipe be routed above the k member? do you need a tubular k member or can you use the stock.
these are just things off the top of my head that ive seen people ask quite often.
any other fabrication needed? will the downpipe be routed above the k member? do you need a tubular k member or can you use the stock.
these are just things off the top of my head that ive seen people ask quite often.
I am trying to get ahold of the guy with the kit to ask some of these questions with no luck yet.
Tomorrow I leave for Vegas so hopefully I can get him by then. I hope the stock K member can be used as those tubular ones are expensive.
With everything included I can also sell my LT headers, Hooker Y pipe, and Hooker Exhaust and be out only 1200-1300 bucks. Damn this is looking good.
Again Sly any help would be awsome.
Sly I just finished reading a massive amount of your threads about this setup. I have to say very impressive doing the whole thing yourself.
Too bad all the pics you had posted are now gone.
If you get time hit me with a PM and I would even be willing to pay you a few bucks for your time and some help if I buy this kit.
Thanks again man.
Too bad all the pics you had posted are now gone.
If you get time hit me with a PM and I would even be willing to pay you a few bucks for your time and some help if I buy this kit.
Thanks again man.
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Hey, the kit will work great with the stock K-Member, that's what I had. I'm not sure if he changed the inlet pipe or not but you have to cut a half circle hole under the airlid, however the cool thing is if you get the lid that I gave him the whole setup is hidden under an SLP lid and a special boot that covers the neck of it thus hiding the whole setup so it looks stock when you pop the hood. Another thing is, I had it on a forged 6.0L and had the oil pan tapped for the oil return fittings so you may have to do this or you will have to plump the oil return into the valve covers. As far as power is concerned I never got it dyno'ed. I had a forged 6.0L with ARP studs throughout and the block was o-ringed to help hold boost. I was planning on 20lb's of boost but only got to run it at around 6lb's. Not sure if you'll get the manual boost controller with the setup but I wouldn't turn it up past 8lb's or so because there's no intercooler. With the setup I had, forged 6.0L, stage 3 ls6's heads, a 230/224 (or was it 230/226) cam lol, and every bolt on, at 70mph on 6lb of boost you could step on it and roast the tires, and they would keep roasting until you let up.
-Sly
-Sly
Originally Posted by slyws6
Hey, the kit will work great with the stock K-Member, that's what I had. I'm not sure if he changed the inlet pipe or not but you have to cut a half circle hole under the airlid, however the cool thing is if you get the lid that I gave him the whole setup is hidden under an SLP lid and a special boot that covers the neck of it thus hiding the whole setup so it looks stock when you pop the hood. Another thing is, I had it on a forged 6.0L and had the oil pan tapped for the oil return fittings so you may have to do this or you will have to plump the oil return into the valve covers. As far as power is concerned I never got it dyno'ed. I had a forged 6.0L with ARP studs throughout and the block was o-ringed to help hold boost. I was planning on 20lb's of boost but only got to run it at around 6lb's. Not sure if you'll get the manual boost controller with the setup but I wouldn't turn it up past 8lb's or so because there's no intercooler. With the setup I had, forged 6.0L, stage 3 ls6's heads, a 230/224 (or was it 230/226) cam lol, and every bolt on, at 70mph on 6lb of boost you could step on it and roast the tires, and they would keep roasting until you let up.
-Sly
-Sly
I have been out of the turbo game since I took my Stage 2 Incon kit off my 408 almost 3 years ago.
I think I have forgoten more then I know.
The setup looks like it would work well, and 8psi is about all I want to run to stock internals anyways.
With Rod bolts and a intercoler I might go 9 or 10 but I am really liking the price setup. The guy you sold it too says he hasn't used it yet so I guess it is in the same condition as when you parted with it.
I have a 410 cubic inch Nitrous motor in my other F body and therefore this is just my daily driver. Its my slow car even though I have skinnys and slicks on it right now. LOL
Therefore I am trying to keep the car driveable and easy to maintain.
The oil shouldn't be a problem as I can easily pull the motor out and when I do the Heads/Cam/springs/rod bolts I can take care of having the oil pan tapped or figure out a different route. I am pretty sure I can get the whole thing done in 2 days at my house. That would be pretty sweet. Come out mostly stock one week, and the next have lower CR heads, cam, And Boost. i bet the would shock some ****'s.
thanks for the help so far, and I am sure I will have some additional questions for you after I get things to my house.
Glad to see you sold you car. I was trying hard to talk my friend into buying it like 2 months ago and instead he bought a V6
Now he is selling it to buy a TransAM.
Thanks again
Damn have prices came down on intercoolers since I was in the turbo game.
With that being said.
Damn have prices on injectors gone through the roof.
What would be a good intercooler to run?
Somethiig like this?
http://www.force-fed-fabrications.c...k/DSC00312.html
core of IC is 17x10x3
entanks are another 2" on either side
2.5 inlet and exit
For 150 bucks I will defentially be intercooled.
Look like I will be buying this setup and trying to make 500 RWHP with stock heads, and a baby cam.
Wish me luck.
With that being said.
Damn have prices on injectors gone through the roof.
What would be a good intercooler to run?
Somethiig like this?
http://www.force-fed-fabrications.c...k/DSC00312.html
core of IC is 17x10x3
entanks are another 2" on either side
2.5 inlet and exit
For 150 bucks I will defentially be intercooled.
Look like I will be buying this setup and trying to make 500 RWHP with stock heads, and a baby cam.
Wish me luck.