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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Next debate.
This time I will explain things as good as possible.
We are still in the street setup's. No race car's, not looking for 800 HP etc.
Lets say we are using a 346 longblock again with whatever Turbo setup you want. Its intercooled and makes 500 HP to the tire with 9psi.
Now we want a little more the cheep way.
We can turn boost up and run 11psi and Alki injection or we could spray it with a shot of nitrous.
93 octane is our limit on fuel but we will see a higher octane with the alki setup.
OUR goal is simple. What makes better power? What will produce better track results?
The nitrous is a 2nd power adder and cools great but from what I have seen you cant really up the boost any.
Uping the boost on the alki is the key as you see more octane, it cools very well and seems like it might be safer.
The Nitrous makes **** spool faster, does the alki?
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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tie this in to your sts part 2 thread... Great thread by the way. Would spraying a small shot outta the hole help the STS kit spool faster and give better track times, or are you just getting to complicated on the setup and tuning? I know about the puddling debate, which is why I said small shot.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Typically the nitrous will not let you up the boost on a given setup, it will simply spool the turbo faster and make LOTS more power from the intercooling effect and the fact it is a power adder of course. We will find out how well it works on my vehicle in the next few months so I'll keep you posted.

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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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With a STS i woudl say go nitrous as spooling woudl be a BIG benifit. And also the other benifits of the nitrous. The alky would be good for all the time use which is nice. I would get the alky as it is something that i coudl use all teh time but if you are in it for the drag strip then nitrous is the key. GL


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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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i wouldn't spray on a stock bottom ended car that already has 9 lbs of boost.

the benefit of alki really is more timing. There was a comparison done where a member here added more timing with less boost versus more boost with less timing. Guess which one made more power? The one with more timing...
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Not only can you run more timing, but a crapload more boost. Nitrous, IMO, is a waste for any properly setup street V8 turbo car. I spool an 88mm small frame turbo just fine from 360 inches, I don't need nitrous. Alcohol gives you more octane, effectively. Nitrous creates the need for more octane. They're giving you opposite effects. Alcohol will make the most power on pump gas, by far. The 10 degree drop in inlet temps from Nitrous is peanuts compared to the 40-50 degrees you can see from meth.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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depends on what you want.....n20 is gonna get you off the line and be better for et. Alky will let you run more boost and timing with pump gas but wont help you 60'.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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So basicially you just need a dry 50 shot for about 1.6 seconds and then have the alki kick in after the 60 ft.
Easy enough.
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