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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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It is allowed to have max 30% more power than stock. But also if it's allowed they will check the car for safety, pollution, noise and a lot of things.
To have the certificate (IF you get it) it will cost several thousands of $.
So better risk a litte and find out a way to reduce power at the right moment.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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It sounds like the easiest thing to do would be to go old tech and put a manual choke on your intake, just like the ones on an old '60 pickup truck. If you get pulled over, pull the choke lever, and suddenly no more airflow=no more power. Simple, elegant, not quite legal.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
I think the new Mercs use a electromagnetic clutch on their blowers.

Or another relatively cheap option.

Add water injection. And lots of it.
In small quanitities, it may have its benefits. But I imagine in LARGE quantities, it would dampen things quite a bit, and should be harmless to the engine.


Yeah, but too much and you'll hydrolock the motor. That too is also not cool and a couple thou easy too.

Add some electonic cut outs or flapper valves (ala speed boat) to the exhaust for when you by by the po-pos. I'd seriously investigate the electric clutch since no abnormal sound means no abnormal suspision, ie blower whine.

I guess the swiss authorities want you to buy nothing but volvos and sabbs.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sb427f-car
I guess the swiss authorities want you to buy nothing but volvos and sabbs.
No, they want electromobiles!






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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tici
No, they want electromobiles!








owie, you win the : contest hands down. When will people learn that electomobiles are no more polution reducers than petro powered since you still have to make the electricity to charge them.
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It's all only about politics. Certain politicians try to get more votes from the "greens".
So they have to show some kind of "nature-protecting political program".
Of course they don't tell about how produce power to split water into O2 + H2!
To produce this power is not the worst thing: to carry liquid H2 from the production plant to the gas stations needs so much energy that everything is just a big waste of time. At the end it need as much energy as using gas.

NOTE: I'm talking about hydrogen engines because the new technology is to carry this gas and convert it in electric power in a electrochemical cell.

The worst of all is that we castrate ourselves with gas taxes (we pay about $4.80 a gallon), power limitation and so on thinking to save some kind of climate disaster.
But nobody says that we are like a fly on the butt of an elefant, and whatever we do is -on a global scale- absolutely nothing.
As said: it's all (and only) about politics.

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Today I reprogrammed the PCM to set 0 timing advance when I switch the "no power button". It's perfect!!! The engine is still running but feels like my old 5.0L 1991 Firebird. Asleep!
I think I'll keep it like that: just an electronic trick and I'll let the piping as it is.
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Very interesting read. This might be a revised way to make some cash at racing. "Yes, my car only makes 345hp, wanna go for a ride?" Then when you line up, flip the switch, timing comes back and now you're making 450hp.

I think most people around here used to pull spark plug wires...but you can't do that while driving. Very cool !
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