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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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what size wastegates would i need on a 383 with 2pcs 60-1 tubos would 38's cut it?

also would 1pc 50mm bov work?

thinking of going all tial stuff!

has anybody run the cheap knockoff ebay stuff i know the turbos suck but how are the wastegates and bov's?
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Don't know, but if you have any critical component fail it can bring others down with it! If I were you, I'd stick to all genuine well-known name brands.

The wastegate size depends on how much boost you want to run. Smaller gates should cut it as long as you are planning a good deal of boost. It's when you are running low boost numbers (especially with a large turbine) that you will start running into problems.

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what size wastegates would i need on a 383 with 2pcs 60-1 tubos would 38's cut it?

also would 1pc 50mm bov work?

thinking of going all tial stuff!

has anybody run the cheap knockoff ebay stuff i know the turbos suck but how are the wastegates and bov's?
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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is there harm in having an oversized wastegate?
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Not that I can think of... but I would defer that question to turbo experts... nothing I can think of at the moment!

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is there harm in having an oversized wastegate?
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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i would think that if you had an oversized wastegate, wouldnt it either:

1. leak boost since its only meant for certain psi levels(in terms of lbs)

2. the opposite, it wouldnt open up properly because the spring pressure is too much(basically defeating the purpose of the WG)

i dont know how they work, but I know you need to get one specifically for the amount of boost you will be running. Otherwise everyone would just go large and not worry about it.

Plus im sure boost creep would have something else to do with the decision.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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There are going to be zero problems from running "too big" of a wastegate. Having "too big" of a wastegate is like having too much power, too big of a downpipe (Save for clearance/weight/practicality concerns, so don't jump on me for this example :p) or too much traction, they just don't exist. You can get springs for 44mm tial wastegates as low as 3 psi, there really isn't any limit for "too big" of a wastegate.

The only reason everyone doesn't just "go large" is because not everyone has the funds or the funding to throw 700+ dollars away on an HKS GT gate when something like a 44mm tial is capable of controlling boost on most setups.
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Old Jul 25, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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ill be running 2 tial 38mm gates (7 psi spring) and the 50mm tial bov (11psi spring) on my twin turboed sbc. with a set of avg. sized t4's, there should be no problems.
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what bran is better tial or turbosmart

I can get turbosmart stuff locally.
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