Any STS users out there?
Good luck with Jeff. He helping get my car right and I have a STS. He tuned my 75lbs with a accelronics driver. My car way more a pain than yours, but I have a totally new drivetrain and motor. From what I heard Jeff is tuning you tomorrow. He will set the car right bud. And I agree get a TC and some tires. Have fun in Durham. Its worth the drive.
Originally Posted by NOSjohn
You NEED a converter to wake that turbo up at the line and get it spooled. I would suggest a 3200-3500.
I think red91z meant a 3200 converter.
I think red91z meant a 3200 converter.
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I think the biggest problem with the STS is illustrated in this post. Since it is such an easy kit, and by far the cheapest/easiest way to FI, many people put the kit on without any supporting mods and expect 11 sec timeslips. Get a dyno tune for Creech or RPM, a 'verter, suspension upgrades and tires to put it down. Tuning issues aside, you havn't mentioned your 60' times anywhere (unless I missed it). If you looking for good timeslips, 2.1 short times won't get it done no matter how well the car is running.
Originally Posted by frcefed98
From what i've seen here on the boards, STS claim of a second off isn't bullshit.
What's screaming in your face right now is TUNING!!!!! The tune you have sucks if you are at 13.7. 13.7 isn't horribly lean, its flat out parts breaking, motor destroying lean on a boosted application.
So what if you've spent 1000 bucks on tunes, seems your tuner(s) suck ***** at tuning so why go back???? Find a decent place to tune your ride. Another member suggested you go to jeff creach...go to him whats it going to hurt...if anything your can't run any worse after his tune.
Safe street/strip tune on a boosted app should be 11.5 to 11.7-1 PERIOD.
Do a leakdown test on your engine, with that tune I wouldn't doubt there is damage to the pistons...especially if you are beating on it at the track. First start off by checking you plugs, prolly melted off a few electrodes...check for bits of aluminum on the plugs....if there is a lot...definately do a leak down or have on performed for you.
Some advice, don't beat on the car, take it to the track or dyno until you know the tune is in the ball park or optimized. If not you'll be posting that you tossed a piston and blame the STS kit. You can't just slap the kit on the car, get a tune that you know sucks and run decently.
On a stock car with an STS kit at 5-7 psi any LS1 should be in the 12s.
What's screaming in your face right now is TUNING!!!!! The tune you have sucks if you are at 13.7. 13.7 isn't horribly lean, its flat out parts breaking, motor destroying lean on a boosted application.
So what if you've spent 1000 bucks on tunes, seems your tuner(s) suck ***** at tuning so why go back???? Find a decent place to tune your ride. Another member suggested you go to jeff creach...go to him whats it going to hurt...if anything your can't run any worse after his tune.
Safe street/strip tune on a boosted app should be 11.5 to 11.7-1 PERIOD.
Do a leakdown test on your engine, with that tune I wouldn't doubt there is damage to the pistons...especially if you are beating on it at the track. First start off by checking you plugs, prolly melted off a few electrodes...check for bits of aluminum on the plugs....if there is a lot...definately do a leak down or have on performed for you.
Some advice, don't beat on the car, take it to the track or dyno until you know the tune is in the ball park or optimized. If not you'll be posting that you tossed a piston and blame the STS kit. You can't just slap the kit on the car, get a tune that you know sucks and run decently.
On a stock car with an STS kit at 5-7 psi any LS1 should be in the 12s.
Nice post
YOU need a proper tune and a Vertwer would help you out the hole for sure.
Be happy that your tune has not lead to destroying your motor! Thats what happen to me and I would have gladly thrown away $11oo if I had the option instead of paying $600 for a tune and then another $4000 on repairs to the motor! And when I get it all fixed Guess what - I gota go have it Tuned AGAIN! Sounds like you have bin luckey so far. Fix the problems and then make a judgment on the kit. IMHO, Lata, Ark
Be happy that your tune has not lead to destroying your motor! Thats what happen to me and I would have gladly thrown away $11oo if I had the option instead of paying $600 for a tune and then another $4000 on repairs to the motor! And when I get it all fixed Guess what - I gota go have it Tuned AGAIN! Sounds like you have bin luckey so far. Fix the problems and then make a judgment on the kit. IMHO, Lata, Ark
While I think that many of these posts have been against me in nature, I really do see the fact that you guys are trying to help me and prevent me from screwing things up worse. I appreciate all your comments and I'm definitely going to take it easy on the car until I can get my fuel pump installed. Thanks.
PS. In response to a previous thread, my best 60' times is 2.3
PS. In response to a previous thread, my best 60' times is 2.3
I would also check your motor out comp. test leak down test.somthing is not right with your car even with the stock vert and crappy tires your time and mph are horrid and so is your tune at that afr you must be taking away somuch timing.at 5psi even with out a tune cars have run real good putting down over 400 and easy 12s at 118-120.is your tranny slipping also.somthing is badlly wrong.good luck.also do you have a boost guage are you seeing full boost?
Originally Posted by boosted99camaro
I would also check your motor out comp. test leak down test.somthing is not right with your car even with the stock vert and crappy tires your time and mph are horrid and so is your tune at that afr you must be taking away somuch timing.at 5psi even with out a tune cars have run real good putting down over 400 and easy 12s at 118-120.is your tranny slipping also.somthing is badlly wrong.good luck.also do you have a boost guage are you seeing full boost?
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Verdad Gallardo The car has 75k miles and it's still stock suspension. I'll get it leak tested as soon as I get the fuel pump installed, just got it in the mail today and my tune should be back from nelson perf. any day now. Thanks.
Originally Posted by longrange4u
Correct me if I am wrong guys... but he could see alot better time if he could address that 2.3 short time. What suspension mods do you have if any?
He needs to take the car to Durham and get the car tuned by the milkman
Originally Posted by reocamaro
I've heard some really bad things floatin' around about jeff. That's the only reason I didn't go to him originally.
Hey man what's up? Its nick. I just got my car tuned by Jeff today and it runs 100x better. I told him about your A/F ratio and he just cringed. My tune only took about 1 1/2 hours and cost $400. I think he charges $600 for turbo tuning. If you need any help with your car let me know, id be glad to lend a helping hand. Later.
You really need to get the car to a good local tuner.That will make all the difference.
I think a big problem is who you bought the kit from. Didn't they explain the extra's you need to make it run 100% safe/good? We alway's explain what should go with the kit. Also I find it hard to believe your out of pump with 42's and a stock engine with the STS.Ussually it will support 460rwhp on an auto.
The good part is the KR sensor's probly saved you a motor.
I think a big problem is who you bought the kit from. Didn't they explain the extra's you need to make it run 100% safe/good? We alway's explain what should go with the kit. Also I find it hard to believe your out of pump with 42's and a stock engine with the STS.Ussually it will support 460rwhp on an auto.
The good part is the KR sensor's probly saved you a motor.
Link of my dyno
I got my car dyno'd and this is the graph, it looks very rough to me. Can you notice something wrong w/ it, is there anything wrong and if there is does that relate w/ my poor performance at the track?
I got my car dyno'd and this is the graph, it looks very rough to me. Can you notice something wrong w/ it, is there anything wrong and if there is does that relate w/ my poor performance at the track?
Originally Posted by reocamaro
Link of my dyno
I got my car dyno'd and this is the graph, it looks very rough to me. Can you notice something wrong w/ it, is there anything wrong and if there is does that relate w/ my poor performance at the track?
I got my car dyno'd and this is the graph, it looks very rough to me. Can you notice something wrong w/ it, is there anything wrong and if there is does that relate w/ my poor performance at the track?
Slowhawk, I'm not a dynograph reading expert...do you get the timing from the spikey rather than smooth looking line?
I got the fuel pump comment since the AFR isnt going leaner at top, but correct me I am wrong, the fuel pump will quickly become an issues once it is tuned correctly?
What AFR do you shoot for on the STS, is it different than conventional turbo setups?
I got the fuel pump comment since the AFR isnt going leaner at top, but correct me I am wrong, the fuel pump will quickly become an issues once it is tuned correctly?
What AFR do you shoot for on the STS, is it different than conventional turbo setups?